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  • Elastic Recoilz
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    #31
    Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

    His jab was a thing of beauty
    Won't deny him that.
    His power went bye bye once he stepped up his competition.
    You GGGroupies love making excuses for him.
    You mugs hate Nelo (or lamely pretend to be neutral) yet, Nelo's resume absolutely obliterates Triple Flops garbage.

    No Nelo, NO HOF
    The reward for ALMOST beating Nelo 1 out of 3
    Holy shlt what a joke.
    I think your problem is you haven't quite grasped the concept that resumes alone don't win you anything in the sport. If they did you'd actually be raising some valid points, however you;re just basically harping on about a subject that means something to you and ultimately nobody else.

    Thankfully common sense and the eye test prevail to let us know what fighters are really all about.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Elastic Recoilz

      I think your problem is you haven't quite grasped the concept that resumes alone don't win you anything in the sport. If they did you'd actually be raising some valid points, however you;re just basically harping on about a subject that means something to you and ultimately nobody else.

      Thankfully common sense and the eye test prevail to let us know what fighters are really all about.
      IOW,
      GGG has a resume not worth mentioning.
      YET, you GGGroupies try and mock Nelo's resume.

      You are who you fight

      Mayorga would have had the same success rate as GGG if he had that sad sack line up.

      "Eye test"

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      • TintaBoricua
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        #33
        GGG was going to get in. I don’t know what the debate was.

        Those 20 title defenses were nothing to scoff at.

        One can be a skeptic and nitpick the opponents, every.single.one is not going to be a world beater, but no lengthy title defense is just slammed with killers one after the other. 20 title defenses is nothing to scoff at. If it was, we’d be hearing about more people pulling those numbers left and right.

        I feel fairly sure there have been more undisputed champions through history than fighters that have amassed 10+ consecutive title defenses.

        Playing down his title defense streak would be like when people like to put Floyd’s resume under the microscope and say:

        Oscar-barely beat him. Split decision.
        Hatton- too small.
        Marquez-too small.
        Mosley-too old.
        Ortiz-he was a tree, bro.
        Cotto-shot.
        Guerrero-not good enough.
        Canelo-too green. Etc.

        One can say they weren’t all killers, but this isn’t Sven Ottke we’re talking about. GGG’s main argument was the streak of KO’s and lengthy title defenses sprinkled with some close competitive fights with Canelo (first two).

        In the same vein, I wonder sometimes if Spence will be in the hall of fame one day. For a guy that was THAT much highly-touted, so fawned over, to now be relegated as “just another guy on Crawford’s hit list” seems kind of hypocritical and engenders the kind of fickle, “short term memory”, “what have you done for me lately” mentality that encompasses boxing.

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          #34
          Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

          IOW,
          GGG has a resume not worth mentioning.
          YET, you GGGroupies try and mock Nelo's resume.

          You are who you fight

          Mayorga would have had the same success rate as GGG if he had that sad sack line up.

          "Eye test"
          No, he wouldn’t. That’s stretching it.

          Mayorga was a 147 at his best…maybe 154 a little. Above that, he would’ve tried that “hands down, chin-tap” taunt he was known for and realized people hit much harder at 160.

          Curtis Stevens and Macklin would’ve worked him. Vanes Martirosyan would’ve outboxed him. I love Mayorga but he wasn’t making it into the top 20 with his toolset.



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            #35
            Originally posted by Nash out

            Mr. Lunatic, you are a fine specimen, but Nash must further enlighten you on the magic of GGG. To KO the great Macklin so early was the stuff of legend. Yes, all the greater greats, beat an entry-level great like Macklin, but GGG did it better than anyone. Also, remember, Curtis Stevens was riding the crest of a wave at that time. He was KO'ing people for fun, and when he threw a fictional funeral for GGG, we all believed it. Golovkin beat the finest version of Stevens the world has ever seen for a God-tier victory.

            Some decent wins led to Kell Brook, and actually, Chocolate Brownies was better at the higher weight. Golovkin, therefore also beat the best version of Mr. Ebanie Bridges. An elite win. A close, but deserved and great win over the Jacobs Cracker, led to a draw that was really a win vs prime Canelo. Canelo 2, though a loss, was a close win on Nash's scorecard, so, you tell me, what's more important? 3 judges' scorecards and an official win, or being the winner on Nash's scorecard? You and I both know it's option B, and Golovkin was thrilled to learn that he won on Nash's card.

            Every great boxer needs a great robbery win on his resume, and Shortychenko has provided that for a few other guys, too, so give GGG his props for adding one to his resume. A decent win over Murata was his real last fight, and one final retirement pension fund and dive vs Canelo, was like Tyson vs Jake Paul, so in many ways, that was another win.

            I'm sure now that you have read this, you'll understand why Golovkin has been inducted into the Hall of Fame. Nash out - His Majesty
            Nash, the eloquence with which you write is simultaneously mesmerizing and enlightening. I too, hope to one day be able to compose such persuasive arguments hand-in-hand with creative comedic wit (such as GGG overcoming Mr. Ebany Bridges).

            In a sea of non-sensical posters and chaos, your insight is nothing short of a much-needed compass we should all aspire to follow. Good day to you, sir.

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              #36
              Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

              IOW,
              GGG has a resume not worth mentioning.
              YET, you GGGroupies try and mock Nelo's resume.

              You are who you fight

              Mayorga would have had the same success rate as GGG if he had that sad sack line up.

              "Eye test"
              whether you mention his resume or not it's essentially a waste of time and pointless and belongs in the same area of discussion as triangle theory. It's a totally subjective topic, what a fighter achieved in their active career is definitely more important. Like it or not GGG is amongst the best middleweights to have ever done it.

              The eye test often reveals a fighters character, will to win, boxing IQ, toughness and chin, which was the reason why so many fans gravitated towards Golovkin.

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                #37
                The Great Nash appreciates your response. He loves to provide insight and entertainment for the BoxingScene forum. Nash is also very much looking forward to Resident Evil: Requiem, having played and completed every major Resident Evil release to date. How Nash finds the time to do this alongside his BoxingScene Hall of Fame duties, who knows, but he gets it done. Nash out - His Majesty

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

                  I can picture Jeff Horn making that run
                  Vinnie Paz is more deserving
                  Most definitely…Horn’s Pacquiao win is better than any triple gyro win…Vinny Paz isn’t in???…That’s a shame…like ggg’s resume!!!…

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                  • TheProudLunatic
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Donnie Herrera

                    Most definitely…Horn’s Pacquiao win is better than any triple gyro win…Vinny Paz isn’t in???…That’s a shame…like ggg’s resume!!!…
                    Pac's Horn would make mince meat of GGG's scrubs
                    You know a resume is pure shlt when so called fight fans say resumes don't mean anything !!!!!!!!!

                    Nah
                    Paz is in and so called fight fans wept
                    "How can he get in .................."

                    Paz beating Rosenblatt > Any Triple Flop W

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TintaBoricua

                      No, he wouldn’t. That’s stretching it
                      You get the picture, doe


                      I'll ask you 1 question to gauge what kind of fan you are
                      (if you let your irrational emotions guide you, are a fake fight fan pretending to be neutral at all times or if you truly are an unbiased fight fan)

                      How important is a fighter's resume ?

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