Comments Thread For: Hall of Fame announcement: The surprises; the snubs; the sentimentality

[TheProudLunatic]

20 straight title defenses…

Let's explore that blanket statement -
Nunez) Ended his illustrious career 41-37-1;33 KOS (KTFO 28x)
Tapia) Wiki page has no info
Ouma) Rosado beat him 1st...Among many others. Finished "career" 29-18-1-1;18
Simon) Shot AF. Ran out of cashiers to fight so he retired.
Fuchigami) Wiki has no info
Proska) No credible W's. Ran out of cab drivers to fight so he retired.
Rosado) Who didn't beat him ???
Ishida) That KO1 Kirkland launched a career
Macklin) Everyone with a pulse beat him. Couldn't find any shoe shiners to fight so he retired.
Stevens) Maybe you can tell me who his best W is....
Adama) I still say this is an AI fabricated opponent
Geale) He did beat Sturm, doe (SD)
Rubio) Could a guy be any more shot........
Murray) Almost beat Sturm (D)
Monroe jr) Ran out of waiters to fight so he retired
LeMeh) Rubio did 1st
Wade) Ran out of bike messengers to fight so he retired.
Brook) Top 10 "What could have been" guy....the shot version.
Jacobs) FINALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A guy with a pulse....Flash KD saved GGG
Nelo) GGG didn't land a single combo or body blow. Was made to look like an amateur when Nelo was on the ropes.

Bonus shoutouts -
Vanes
Rolls GGG taking 0's
Shortychenko*
Kamil) GGG taking 0's
Murata



* = Top 10 robbery


Discuss ?

[TheProudLunatic]

What AI has to say about Triple Flop -

Gennady Golovkin will be inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame as part of the class of 2026. Whether he should be a Hall of Famer is a subject of debate among boxing fans and experts, with strong arguments on both sides.

Arguments For Induction

• Record-tying title defenses: He tied Bernard Hopkins for the middleweight record with 20 consecutive title defenses.
• Unified champion: Golovkin held the WBA, WBC, IBF, and IBO middleweight titles simultaneously, making him a dominant force in the division for several years.
• Exceptional punching power: He holds the highest knockout-to-win ratio in middleweight championship history at 88.1%, including a streak of 23 consecutive knockouts.
• Durability and amateur background: He was never knocked down or stopped in his entire professional or extensive amateur career (around 395 total fights), and won a silver medal at the 2004 Athens Olympics.
• Avoided fighter: Many top fighters, including Canelo Alvarez early in GGG's prime, were accused of avoiding him, which limited his opportunities against elite competition at the time.

Arguments Against Induction

• Weak resume: Critics argue that aside from the controversial fights with Canelo Alvarez and a win over Daniel Jacobs, Golovkin's resume lacks wins over other truly elite, Hall of Fame-caliber opponents during their primes.
• Controversial decisions: His most significant fights against Canelo resulted in a controversial draw (many thought GGG won) and a majority decision loss (also seen by some as a win for GGG), suggesting he did not definitively win on the absolute biggest stages.
• "Can-crusher" perception: Some argue he built his impressive record and knockout streak against lesser-known opponents, or "can-crushers", before facing top-tier competition later in his career.

Ultimately, the official decision has been made, and Gennady Golovkin is set to be honored as a Hall of Famer.

That "avoided" fighter BULLSHlT
Never a link to support it, yet is constantly regurgitated

[TheProudLunatic]

Hey Google

Why didn't Nelo need Triple Flop to gain worldwide super stardom ?

"Canelo Álvarez achieved superstardom independent of Gennadiy Golovkin due to his early start and extensive professional experience, a massive pay-per-view (PPV) audience base established with the Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight, and a rapid accumulation of world titles across multiple weight classes long before the two first met in 2017."

Key reasons for his pre-GGG superstardom:

• Early Career and Mexican Fan Base: Canelo turned professional at just 15 and quickly built a reputation in Mexico as a formidable fighter with an aggressive "Mexican style" that resonated with fans. He became a crowd favorite, which helped cultivate a massive and loyal following, particularly within the Mexican and Mexican-American communities.
• High-Profile Fights and PPV Success: Before facing Golovkin in 2017, Canelo had already headlined several major events that generated massive public interest and high PPV numbers.
  • His 2013 loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr., though a defeat, was the biggest boxing event of the year, generating 2.2 million PPV buys and introducing Canelo to a global audience.
  • His 2015 victory over Miguel Cotto for the middleweight title generated an estimated 900,000 PPV buys and solidified his status as boxing's next big star following Mayweather's retirement.
  • He also fought other established names like Shane Mosley, Amir Khan, and Erislandy Lara, consistently building his resume and commercial appeal.
• Multi-Division Titles: Canelo began collecting world titles early, winning his first major belt (WBC junior middleweight title) at just 20 years old. By the time he fought GGG, he was already a two-division world champion, demonstrating his elite skill and ability across weight classes.
• Skill and Ring IQ: Beyond marketability, Canelo's impressive technical skills, elite defense, powerful counterpunching, and improving ring intelligence earned him widespread respect as a top pound-for-pound fighter in the sport, even before the GGG rivalry

The fights with Golovkin were career-defining clashes that elevated Canelo's legacy and definitively proved his place among the all-time greats. However, he was already a bona fide superstar and a major financial draw in the sport before the first bell rang against GGG

So much for 350 AMATEUR wins
While GGG was practicing
Nelo was actually doing it

[TheProudLunatic]

Yep
Discussing Triple Flop's "run", IN DETAIL, is hard work

A ton excuses and lies are needed

[TheProudLunatic]

DOA after only 6 pages bump