Comments Thread For: Hall of Fame announcement: The surprises; the snubs; the sentimentality

[TheProudLunatic]

While exact official figures for David Lemieux's purse against Curtis Stevens (November 2015) aren't readily published in snippets, major fights always have disclosed earnings; Lemieux earned a significant, career-high purse for this win, estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, perhaps over $500k, reflecting his rising star status and co-main event billing, though less than top-tier PPV draws.

Gennady "GGG" Golovkin earned a purse of $400,000 for his fight against Curtis Stevens, which took place on November 2, 2013, at Madison Square Garden. Curtis Stevens received a purse of $290,000 for the bout.

For their 2015 fight, Gennady "GGG" Golovkin earned a guaranteed purse of $2 million, while David Lemieux received $1.5 million, which was the biggest payday of Lemieux's career at the time.

For his 2015 fight against Canelo Alvarez, Miguel Cotto earned a guaranteed purse of $15 million, with reports suggesting he could make up to $30 million with pay-per-view upside, while Canelo received $5 million plus Mexican TV rights, making Cotto the higher guaranteed earner in their big showdown

Derp.....................

[TheProudLunatic]

Didn't think a thread about HOFers could be so lame.......

[-Kev-]

In what world or sport would somebody who's champion for 9 years in a major sanctioning body with 20 defenses of their title.

And was named the #1 person in their sport (Ring P4P #1) would not be in the Hall of Fame

Matter of fact, can you name ONE Ring Magazine P4P #1 fighter who's NOT in the Hall of Fame

He's also one of the greatest amateur fighters of all-time as well.

You forgot that also goes into the consideration




First off, nobody else did.

Second off, you should've told Sergio Martinez, Peter Quillin, Danny Jacobs, Miguel Cotto, & Canelo to fight the prime version of GGG, but they were all too pxssy & avoided him until he was 35 years old

First, in other sports we don’t to deal with having 7 different titles.

The LA Dodgers can’t just choose to play the World Series against the Pittsburgh Pirates. And because the Toronto Blue Jays were in line to face them in the WS, they couldn’t just vacate the one of their hypothetically many championships and instead face the Tampa Bay Rays.

You’re talking about championships and defenses like they actually mean anything anymore. They don’t mean a damn thing and you know it. And if we were in person, I doubt you could argue that with a straight face.

Championships in boxing are a complete joke and they have been for a very long time. A big money grab. Cherrypicking and ducking isn’t something you see in other North American sports. Every team has a schedule that they have to abide by and they can’t just decide who they want to play at the Super Bowl like pro boxers.

It’s way different and you know it. GGG calling out Chavez Jr at 168, then telling Ward he needs to come down to 164lbs is one of the many jokes of boxing. And no, it’s not only him, he was just playing the game like every other player in it.

In other sports you actually have to go through a gauntlet of elite teams in the playoffs, the best of the best. In boxing anyone can just feast on any level of fighter and just hide behind the whole “Oh he was champion”, “Oh he was ranked in the top 10 of one of the 4 different money hungry sanctioning bodies”. It’s all a joke.

You can’t compare someone like GGG and his resume to someone like Oleksandr Usyk and his resume. And yet they will share the same honors when it’s clear that one guy had a way tougher road to getting there. An actual HOF road.

[TheDrunkenMaster]

I'm happy for Anber.

Russ knows his stuff and been working various roles for decades.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

GGG is famous for being one of the most ducked fighter's of all time. Because he hit too hard and had an iron chin. He put fear into Canelo, Cotto, Ward. GGG called for all of those fights and more and every time the fighters chose another path.

You can try and somehow say GGG didn't really want the fights. But if you look up the facts it is obvious none of them wanted to get anywhere GGG in his prime.

But ok if you hate the dude. As I said in another thread, it is just odd that some people are obsessed with him. He is obviously a HOF fighter compared to the other fighters in there. He couldn't force guys to face him.

[RockyKO]

I don't know why everyone is getting so upset. Naturally, the boxing hall of fame is corrupt just like the rest of the boxing industry.

When is Chris Eubanks getting in? It would have made perfect sense to enshrine Eubanks and Benn in the same year tbh.

[The D3vil]

1) Imagine someone being allowed to fight so many BUMS IN A ROW
Which of those BUMS impressed you the most ?!?!?!

2) Triple Flop wanted to fight Sergio after a fight where he injured his leg (Sergio is also older than GGGeezer)

Peter Quillin and Gennady Golovkin never fought primarily because they were on different career paths with different promoters and sanctioning bodies, and a matchup was never officially negotiated.

Cotto is also older than GGGeezer

Prime GGGeezer was too busy chasing BUMS to actually keep his "ANYONE from 154-168" promise.

Cotto, Sergio, Nelo and even Peter all have deeper resumes than Triple Flop

A lil homework ON YOUR END could have saved you rolling out the same nonsensical excuses

Okay, name these great Middleweights GGG avoided in order to fight bums. .

Name one.

[The D3vil]

You’re talking about championships and defenses like they actually mean anything anymore. They don’t mean a damn thing and you know it. And if we were in person, I doubt you could argue that with a straight face.

Championships in boxing are a complete joke and they have been for a very long time. A big money grab. Cherrypicking and ducking isn’t something you see in other North American sports. Every team has a schedule that they have to abide by and they can’t just decide who they want to play at the Super Bowl like pro boxers.

It’s way different and you know it. GGG calling out Chavez Jr at 168, then telling Ward he needs to come down to 164lbs is one of the many jokes of boxing. And no, it’s not only him, he was just playing the game like every other player in it.

In other sports you actually have to go through a gauntlet of elite teams in the playoffs, the best of the best. In boxing anyone can just feast on any level of fighter and just hide behind the whole “Oh he was champion”, “Oh he was ranked in the top 10 of one of the 4 different money hungry sanctioning bodies”. It’s all a joke.

You can’t compare someone like GGG and his resume to someone like Oleksandr Usyk and his resume. And yet they will share the same honors when it’s clear that one guy had a way tougher road to getting there. An actual HOF road.

1. Championships & defenses is literally how we decide who's going into the Hall of Fame. It's always mattered & it always will

2. Why is GGG obligated to fight people outside of his weight class? Ward & Chavez weren't Middleweights. He wasn't obligated to fight anybody outside of 160, just like Hagler, Monzon, or anybody else.

3. Oleksander Usyk is arguably a top 20 fighter in history. Nobody's arguing GGG is that.

Arturo Gatti, Vinny Paz, & Buddy McGirt are in the HOF

He's no worse than them.

[drablj]

1. Championships & defenses is literally how we decide who's going into the Hall of Fame. It's always mattered & it always will

2. Why is GGG obligated to fight people outside of his weight class? Ward & Chavez weren't Middleweights. He wasn't obligated to fight anybody outside of 160, just like Hagler, Monzon, or anybody else.

3. Oleksander Usyk is arguably a top 20 fighter in history. Nobody's arguing GGG is that.

Arturo Gatti, Vinny Paz, & Buddy McGirt are in the HOF

He's no worse than them.

don't argue with him. he's on a crusade against golovkin for almost 10 years. there's nothing anybody can say to him to change his mind or reconsider. by the way, that's the definition of a fanatic.

1. WE don't decide anything. there are no criteria for voters either. there are boxers with 0 belts and 0 defenses in the hof. nothing against you. it's just a fact.
2. i agree 100%.
3. i don't agree.

ray mancini and jeff chandler are in for almost nothing. no longevity, no great wins. people here argue that someone is not good enough for hof but they didn't watch or analize half of the hofers.

[TheProudLunatic]

Okay, name these great Middleweights GGG avoided in order to fight bums. .

Name one.

His REFUSAL to LEAVE a dead div is all the proof an UNBIASED fight fan needs.
Instead of MOVING UP and chasing GREATNESS, he STAYED in an utterly decrepit div padding the stats.

To think
Triple Flop's claim to fame is an almost W.......