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  • elfag
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    #11
    If Crawford agreed to 0.6% in writing for the canelo fight then that is on him and they can sue him for it

    I'm more surprised that they wanted a fee for merely fighting in an eliminator fight. That is bull****

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    • dannnnn
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      #12
      Good on Crawford. If I were him, I wouldn't pay that $300k either. Or the $100k for the Madrimov fight where the WBC belt wasn't even on the line. "We changed our rules to accommodate Crawford with only a 0.6% sanctioning fee instead of our usual 3%." The nerve to say that like he's being generous and doing him a favour.

      Pay $300k for what anyway? So that he can walk around for a few more months as the 'official WBC champion' before he inevitably either vacates all the belts or rematches Canelo? And if he does rematch Canelo, you can bet that Sulaiman will be the first one on his knees sucking, anything to be involved. He'll probably make a new belt just for the occasion, the Champion Crawford belt.

      Seriously though, we all saw Crawford win the belts. He's the champ. There's absolutely no reason to pay that $300k now. The only surprising thing is that a crook like Sulaiman hasn't learned to get the money up front.

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      • SteveM
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        #13
        Originally posted by Nightfall
        This is a serious business but Crawford aint lying. He should give up all the belt and move down to 160. He already made the history so there you have it
        He made history by unifying by beating the recognised champs at 140, 147 and 168 - but how were those champions champs in the first place? By fighting in a system that is structured by the orgs. That structure costs money. Somebody has to pay for it - its not as if the money will just appear out of nowhere. The belt orgs are bad - but without them the sport would be totally chaotic - there'd be no way to know who was the best boxer at a certain weight for most of the time - at least now, if Canelo is champion and he avoids Benavidez we know it was a duck - because there's structure.
        I feel its a given that boxers have to pay the belt orgs when they fight - if they aren't prepared to pay the sanctioning fee they should say so before the fight.

        And finally, I bet Crawford (or any other 1st time champ) didn't feel this way when he won his belt at 135 against Ricky Burns.

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        • SteveM
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          #14
          Originally posted by James Hunt
          Bravo!
          Finally someone with the balls to tell that crook what needs to be said.
          He didn't say any of that when he was on his way up - only now he considers himself the GOAT is he prepared to tear down the system that enabled him to become great - I wouldn't do business with Bud - he should have stated all those pent up feelings beforehand - if he had the balls he would have dumped the WBC belt in a trash can after the Madrimov fight - but that didn't suit his agenda

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          • Hooded Terror
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            #15
            The WBC shot themselves in the foot years ago by not enforcing a Canelo defense against David Benavidez. That they never stripped Canelo after giving zero warnings and deadlines to sign indicates that the WBC does not give value for the dollar, unless you are Mexican. The WBC has a long history of rimming their favorites; Julio Cesar Chavez JR, Vitali Klitschko, to name but a couple. Some of their reasons are better than others, but the shafting of Benavidez underlined the very blatant worst of it. Now suddenly they ARE good at stripping titles. Bet the farm this has something to do with Canelo in 26-27.

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            • drablj
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              #16
              Originally posted by elfag
              If Crawford agreed to 0.6% in writing for the canelo fight then that is on him and they can sue him for it

              I'm more surprised that they wanted a fee for merely fighting in an eliminator fight. That is bull****
              it seems you are new to boxing. every eliminator, silver belt, interim belt, intercontinental belt, whatever belt requires sanctioning fees. sometimes they simultaneously have a full champion, interim champion, final eliminator, some?! other eliminator and a couple of lower belts. if it was only one belt and fees for it, it would be ok.

              the blame is on crawford here for ACCEPTING those conditions. i hate wba and wbc guys to the point i want them dead but crawford is wrong here.

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              • factsarenice
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                #17

                Mauricio Sulaiman and the crooked cops in the Equalizer run the same extortion racket, you either pay for protection or go out of business.

                Make no mistake, Mauricio Sulaiman​ feels entitled to a lavish life style off taxing athletes and he has no intention of giving up a multi million dollar revenue stream. Sulaiman​ is trying to paint himself in the court of public opinion as the good guy while he ramps up the intimidation factor. The veiled threats will keep coming, next a law suit, a lock out with his co-conspirators, or maybe another phony traffic stop with guns drawn.

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                • Coverdale
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SteveM

                  He made history by unifying by beating the recognised champs at 140, 147 and 168 - but how were those champions champs in the first place? By fighting in a system that is structured by the orgs. That structure costs money. Somebody has to pay for it - its not as if the money will just appear out of nowhere. The belt orgs are bad - but without them the sport would be totally chaotic - there'd be no way to know who was the best boxer at a certain weight for most of the time - at least now, if Canelo is champion and he avoids Benavidez we know it was a duck - because there's structure.
                  I feel its a given that boxers have to pay the belt orgs when they fight - if they aren't prepared to pay the sanctioning fee they should say so before the fight.

                  And finally, I bet Crawford (or any other 1st time champ) didn't feel this way when he won his belt at 135 against Ricky Burns.
                  Not sure I agree with this part. They often stand in the way of divisional clarity because you get two guys holding belts, claiming to be champion and no way for a fight between them to be ordered. Take cruiserweight for example: the IBF have ordered Opetaia to fight a 40-year old rookie and the WBA last ordered Ramirez to fight Dorticos.

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                  • factsarenice
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SteveM

                    He didn't say any of that when he was on his way up - only now he considers himself the GOAT is he prepared to tear down the system that enabled him to become great - I wouldn't do business with Bud - he should have stated all those pent up feelings beforehand - if he had the balls he would have dumped the WBC belt in a trash can after the Madrimov fight - but that didn't suit his agenda
                    Sanction fees are not in writing because if they were.... they wouldn't be negotiable. Second, if fees were in writing every fighter insist upon additional money to cover the cost. The additional cost would either come from the promoter, manager or network and they know that so they all like to keep it low key, keep the fighter from worrying about ****** old math.

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                    • factsarenice
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Coverdale

                      Not sure I agree with this part. They often stand in the way of divisional clarity because you get two guys holding belts, claiming to be champion and no way for a fight between them to be ordered. Take cruiserweight for example: the IBF have ordered Opetaia to fight a 40-year old rookie and the WBA last ordered Ramirez to fight Dorticos.
                      Great post!

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