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    Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Why does Devin Haney take more criticism than Ryan Garcia and Conor Benn?

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  • dannnnn
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    Dmitri Bivol, whom I think is a first-ballot HOF’er and a top five or six fighter in the world, goes the distance at about the same rate Haney does. He scores knockdowns at about the same rate Haney does. And he puts himself at risk at about the same rate Haney does. But you rarely hear him called a “boring runner”. Let that sink in when you think all of this Haney criticism is coming from a purely objective place.
    Does he clinch and hold at the same rate Haney does? I can scarcely recall Bivol holding even against Beterbiev. Haney does it systematically every fight.

    And by the way, saying Bivol "puts himself at risk at about the same rate Haney does" is a load of drivel. I see you tried to slip that one in there like it's a statistic. Bivol lets his hands go in combinations and punches with authority, he's not a jab-and-grab merchant like Haney. He boxes his way out of trouble using footwork and punches, he doesn't just grab hold and look to the ref for separation.

    They're not the same, and it has nothing to do with the colour of their skin (which is clearly what you're trying to insinuate). It's boring and predictable. Bivol is a classical boxer, Haney is a spoiler. They're both difficult to beat but for different reasons.

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      "When Benn and Garcia are talked about or interviewed you rarely hear their positive PED test brought up. You rarely hear about their shortcomings as fighters"

      stay off the drugs bread

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        i really dont like it when people go on about oh this fighter gets so much hate so why doesnt this other fighter get the same amount of hate which im perceiving somehow, in this case why is bivol an ATG and haney a clown LOL, yeah its because bivol a half korean russian is just so popular and everyone hates haney?? is that it?? ryan garcia and eggie benn get plenty of crap from all sorts of places plus their daddy haney is not on and on and on about his son being the greatest since ali with devin himself not far behind in what he says, when in fact the biggest thing hes famous for is attempting to be 2 division heavier then anyone he faces in the ring & then having to rely on a judges call to get over the line v loma who he looked at least 2 division bigger than as well, yeah everyone is forced to like him i guess or else

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          hes not very likeable for many reasons: easily beaten by loma but got a gift decision, beaten up by ryan garcia who was a cherry pick gone wrong, inflated sense of greatness, terrible huggy style that is never punished and is borderline unwatchable

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