The GOAT! Pacquiao or Floyd or Crawford?

[Coverdale]

The number of fights modern boxers take and shallower talent pool bars any of them from breaching the top 5 all time

1. Sugar Robinson
2. Harry
3. Henry
4. Sam
5. Ezzard

Low activity, bogus retirements and never fighting abroad increase the likelihood of remaining undefeated, too.

[SouthpawRight]

Low activity, bogus retirements and never fighting abroad increase the likelihood of remaining undefeated, too.

but not for long

Riyadh Islam Arabia taken over as the center of boxing

gbye westoid debauchery

[TheProudLunatic]

May has the superior resume of the 3

[TheProudLunatic]

The number of fights modern boxers take and shallower talent pool bars any of them from breaching the top 5 all time

1. Sugar Robinson
2. Harry
3. Henry
4. Sam
5. Ezzard

You would lose faith of that list if you counted the number of no hopers and debuts opps
No way could there have been 10 quality guys back then. Much less 100

[RockyKO]

This is a good debate for best fighter of the 21st century and that's about it. Maybe I have Mayweather in the top 5 in the Welterweight and possibly Pacquiao in the top 5 or 10 at 122? But boxing has very rich lore and I don't know the history that well at 122 pounds to make that determination.

[hugh grant]

May has the superior resume of the 3

It's highly unlikely a man known for cautioned would have best resume. But if you say it enough you want idea in people's subconscious. It might work down the line

[PRINCEKOOL]

Would Top Soviet Bivol be able to pull it off

fights at 175 but walks around at 185

I just think a lot of modern day fighters would really struggle to travel back in time, and maintain their form 'for some of the reasons, I stated in my first post in this thread'.

Dmitry Bivol from what I know, has never been a fighter who has massively used weight draining tactics 'but he is still a modern day fighter, who has only fought in 12 round championship fights. And predominantly uses modern day training practices, and supplementation most likely'.

Dmitry Bivol has not trained for 15 or 45 round championship fights.

Note: That is why I have specifically highlighted and spoken about Floyd Mayweather Junior, for the large majority of his career 'he trained like a old school fighter, but? He was competing against modern day fighters. And he was the best fighter of his generation'.

Also heavyweight fighters like Mike Tyson, while being trained under Cus D'Amato, Teddy Atlas, Kevin Rooney and even in the early 90's 'Mike Tyson was another all-time great fighter, who predominantly trained like a old school fighter'.

You only have to compare Mike Tyson's training practices, to Oleksandr Uysk and Anthony Joshua 'the latter two fighters are bi-products of modern sports. Whereas Mike Tyson was the bi-product of century's of empirical evidence when it comes to boxing training'.

To conclude: Floyd Mayweather Junior, Bernard Hopkins, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Carl Froch 'those are some of the modern day fighters, who I think could travel back in time and maintain a solid level of form'.

Many of the modern day fighters, who I do appreciate 'and rate very highly within this era, would struggle. That is why you won't really ever see me, just automatically rate a modern day fighter higher than fighters who fought during the boxing era's pre - 1980. Totally different competitive landscape, and demands were being put on the athletes' etc.

[TheProudLunatic]

It's highly unlikely a man known for cautioned would have best resume. But if you say it enough you want idea in people's subconscious. It might work down the line

Did you vote in that blood test thread, Mr Cautionary ?

[SouthpawRight]

You would lose faith of that list if you counted the number of no hopers and debuts opps
No way could there have been 10 quality guys back then. Much less 100

of course these guys would fight up to twice PER MONTH

Fighting frequently instead of long training camps with spars

This is a good debate for best fighter of the 21st century and that's about it. Maybe I have Mayweather in the top 5 in the Welterweight and possibly Pacquiao in the top 5 or 10 at 122? But boxing has very rich lore and I don't know the history that well at 122 pounds to make that determination.

1. Sugar Robinson
2. Harry
3. Henry
4. Sam
5. Ezzard
6. Willie
7. Muhammad
8. Roberto
9. Sugar Leonard
10. FLOYD
11. Joe
12. Benny
13. Pernell
14. manny
15. Mickey
16. Jimmy
17. Archie
18. Carlos
19. Marvin
20. Barney
21. Tony
22. Julio Cesar
23. Rocky
24. Larry
25. Gene
26. Jack
27. TBud

[Coverdale]

of course these guys would fight up to twice PER MONTH

Fighting frequently instead of long training camps with spars

Mayweather needed a year to prepare for Victor Ortiz and Robert Guerrero. That just didn't do it for me.