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  • The Big Dunn
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    #191
    Originally posted by djtmal

    Floyd was scared of Manny, and when they asked him about Crawford and Spence he was retired, unless it was a 120lb japanese kickboxer

    Floyd ducked Keith Thurman, yet cherrypicked Marcos Madonna and Andre Berto
    If he was scared why did he keep making him offers? Doesn’t make sense.

    Yes he was. And? Manny has to keep fighting for money. Floyd doesn’t.

    Lmfao. He fought Maidana because Manny ducked. Then he fought Berto after Manny. So what?

    You keep diverting and deflecting from the fact Manny took the JMM fight to duck Floyd for an easy payday. It backfired on him.

    Talk about that for once.

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      #192
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      If he was scared why did he keep making him offers?
      Floyd made smoke and mirror offers.

      He last minute wanted osts to back out of fighting Manny

      The 40 million with no ppv was a garbage offer. Nobody is waiting on Floyd to wire 20 million of his own money they know it ain't coming

      He had already backed out of offers with Winky Wright and Margarito nobody takes Floyd serious

      Yes, Floyd Mayweather's reported $40 million flat-fee offer to Manny Pacquiao before their mega-fight was widely seen as a lowball, "bogus" move because it excluded Pacquiao from the massive Pay-Per-View (PPV) revenue, essentially offering him only a fraction of the potential earnings for a fight everyone wanted, making it an insult that kept the fight from happening for years. Mayweather wanted to keep the huge PPV profits, while Pacquiao's team felt it was unfair for him to not share in the primary revenue stream, especially since Mayweather was the one keeping the PPV money.
      Why it was considered bogus:
      • Exclusion from PPV: The offer was a fixed sum, meaning Pacquiao wouldn't get a cut of the millions (eventually hundreds of millions) generated from PPV sales, which was the main source of income.
      • Disproportionate Offer: While $40 million was more than Pacquiao usually made, it was seen as peanuts compared to what Mayweather stood to earn by keeping all the PPV revenue from a fight that would break records.
      • Stalling Tactic: Many believed it was a strategy by Mayweather to control the terms and maximize his own profit, effectively delaying the fight until he got his way.
      • Fan Perception: Fans and media viewed it as Mayweather ducking the fight or trying to shortchange Pacquiao, fueling frustration over the years of negotiation.
      Ultimately, when the fight did happen in 2015, both fighters earned massive purses, with Mayweather reportedly getting around $180 million and Pacquiao $120 million, plus PPV shares. The initial $40 million offer was just one of many sticking points that delayed the "Fight of the Century" for years.
      Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 03:27 PM.

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        #193
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn



        He fought Maidana because Manny ducked.
        He fought Madonna because Amir Khan won the bogus poll that Floyd set up to see who the public wanted between Khan and Madonna.

        Khan wasn't slow and flat footed enough

        Amir Khan Wins Fan Poll on Who Floyd Mayweather Will Fight Next

        Patrick ClarkeFeb 10, 2014

        He never once mentioned Keith Thurman who was his WBC mandatory and was calling him out

        Floyd was scared
        Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 03:18 PM.

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          #194
          Originally posted by djtmal

          Floyd made smoke and mirror offers.

          He last minute wanted osts to back out of fighting Manny

          The 40 million with no ppv was a garbage offer. Nobody is waiting on Floyd to wire 20 million of his own money they know it ain't coming

          He had already backed out of offers with Winky Wright and Margarito nobody takes Floyd serious

          Yes, Floyd Mayweather's reported $40 million flat-fee offer to Manny Pacquiao before their mega-fight was widely seen as a lowball, "bogus" move because it excluded Pacquiao from the massive Pay-Per-View (PPV) revenue, essentially offering him only a fraction of the potential earnings for a fight everyone wanted, making it an insult that kept the fight from happening for years. Mayweather wanted to keep the huge PPV profits, while Pacquiao's team felt it was unfair for him to not share in the primary revenue stream, especially since Mayweather was the one keeping the PPV money.
          Why it was considered bogus:
          • Exclusion from PPV: The offer was a fixed sum, meaning Pacquiao wouldn't get a cut of the millions (eventually hundreds of millions) generated from PPV sales, which was the main source of income.
          • Disproportionate Offer: While $40 million was more than Pacquiao usually made, it was seen as peanuts compared to what Mayweather stood to earn by keeping all the PPV revenue from a fight that would break records.
          • Stalling Tactic: Many believed it was a strategy by Mayweather to control the terms and maximize his own profit, effectively delaying the fight until he got his way.
          • Fan Perception: Fans and media viewed it as Mayweather ducking the fight or trying to shortchange Pacquiao, fueling frustration over the years of negotiation.
          Ultimately, when the fight did happen in 2015, both fighters earned massive purses, with Mayweather reportedly getting around $180 million and Pacquiao $120 million, plus PPV shares. The initial $40 million offer was just one of many sticking points that delayed the "Fight of the Century" for years.
          still blaming Floyd for Manny’s cowardly decision to duck. Pathetic.

          Manny’s ego and greed cost him. He wanted to be the a side so he ducked and took a fight with less money against a lesser opponent just to feed his ego.

          Because of that, he got ktfo. But hey in the end he got paid for just showing up, which was always his plan, which is why he kept ducking.

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            #195
            Originally posted by djtmal

            He fought Madonna because Amir Khan won the bogus poll that Floyd set up to see who the public wanted between Khan and Madonna.

            Khan wasn't slow and flat footed enough

            Amir Khan Wins Fan Poll on Who Floyd Mayweather Will Fight Next

            Patrick ClarkeFeb 10, 2014

            He never once mentioned Keith Thurman who was his WBC mandatory and was calling him out

            Floyd was scared
            There you go again mentioning other names.

            Manny ducked assuming he’d get an easy payday with JMM. He got ktfo instead.

            Talk about that.

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              #196
              None of them are the goat.
              it s between Greb,Langford,Robinson or Armstrong.
              great fighters though.

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                #197
                Originally posted by TheDrunkenMaster
                None of them are the goat.
                it s between Greb,Langford,Robinson or Armstrong.
                great fighters though.
                Henry was THE champ in 3 divisions SIMULTANEOUSLY

                which OVERSHADOWS modern day multi-division champs

                Harry and Sam were midgets beating up heavyweights

                modern boxing schedule won't allow anyone to breach the top 5 all time
                1. Sugar Robinson
                2. Harry
                3. Henry
                4. Sam
                5. Ezzard

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                • djtmal
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  still blaming Floyd for Manny’s cowardly decision to duck. Pathetic.

                  g.
                  Stop crying

                  I searched Floyd's bogus offer and this is what came up

                  Floyd made the fight when he was certain the risk was about 30% or less

                  You don't get much credit for beating shopworn fighters, and Floyd is no exception
                  Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 05:12 PM.

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                    Manny ducked.
                    Floyd don't get credit for beating shopworn fighters

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                    • djtmal
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                      Manny’s ego and greed cost him. He wanted to be the a side
                      Floyd don't get much credit for beating shopworn fighters

                      Nobody cares about your excuses
                      Last edited by djtmal; Yesterday, 05:29 PM.

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