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  • drablj
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    #21
    Originally posted by OnePunch
    nobody "avoided" andrade or lara. When there is not a single compelling reason to fight someone, "not" fighting them is not a duck. Andrade and Lara couldnt sell out their own dinner tables, were notoriously difficult to negotiate with, and did not have styles that 99% of ticket buyers want to see. It wasnt that they were avoided, it was that there was no real reason for the top guys to fight them in the first place............
    actually jermall ducked andrade for 7 million at 160. he already hated andrade for collapsed jermell fight years ago.

    andrade ducked lara when he was lara's mandatory. after that hurd and castano wouldn't duck him. with 3 belts and real beef with jermell, undisputed fight at 154 was possible. but demetrius didn't want them. he only wanted canelo like a bunch of other guys too.

    canelo clearly ducked andrade. ~10 years in the same division and both champions or highly rated and they didn't fight. it doesn't matter if canelo knocked him out in the 1st round. it doesn't matter who has the better resume or who's the bigger star. the fight didn't happen because only 1 fighter didn't want it and that is canelo.

    so somebody indeed avoided andrade and lara.

    the worst duck is not mentioned yet. chavez junior - golovkin. the fight was scheduled. golovkin would get 2 million and chavez 8. chavez didn't get that much even against canelo. d u m b a s s canceled the fight and never did anything good for the rest of his career.

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    • OnePunch
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      #22
      Originally posted by famicommander

      Lara ended up fighting a ton of good fighters either way. Andrade never did.

      Lara vs world title winners (not including WBA secondary titlists like Trout):
      D vs Carlos Molina MD 10
      L vs Paul Williams MD 12
      L vs Canelo Alvarez SD 12
      W vs Ishe Smith UD 12
      W vs Jan Zaveck TKO 3
      W vs Yuri ForemanKO 4
      L vs Jarrett Hurd SD 12
      D vs Brian Castano SD 12
      W vs Danny Garcia RTD 9
      and he's fighting Janibek next.

      Andrade vs world title winners:
      L vs David Benavidez RTD 6
      without looking up each of those fights, I would suspect that most of them were because it was a mando, or some other "compelling" reason, like someone doesnt want to vacate their title, or pay step-aside money.

      NOBODY tells their promoter, "GET ME LARA!!!! THATS THE FIGHT I WANT!!!", because if it isnt a mando or a title shot, there's no reason to fight him. He doesnt draw flies, he will stink the joint out, and after you beat him people will either say "so what?" or they will claim Lara got jobbed on the cards lol.

      Its a no-win situation
      Last edited by OnePunch; Today, 09:41 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by drablj

        read the title again.
        mccallum was avoided only by hearns.
        sergio martinez had his first title fight at 35. that's worse than anybody on the list.
        Thanks for making my point lol. "..first title fight at 35."

        Read up on what happened when he and Hagler met at an event and don't bother coming back to explain yourself. Last 20 years, good point, I give you that. Your basically saying this is Facebook survey list, bravo!

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