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    Comments Thread For: The ?sudden? decline of Chris Eubank Jnr can be traced back to 2019

    It all seems so obvious now: Chris Eubank Jnr was never going to beat Conor Benn in their rematch such was his physical deterioration. The clues were plentiful.
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  • Moz_boxing
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    i always suspected he changed his style since he could not bank on his best attributes when he moved down to middleweight. His relentless punch output and his ability to take a big punch.

    I think he knew he can't bank on that while cutting weight and he decided to become more of a boxer which is not his natural style he is a fighter at heart and he had an incredible workrate.

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    • steeve steel
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      #3
      SUDDEN?? Hahahahahahahaha

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      • Coverdale
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        The fact is he was never that good. What's his best win? A faded Arthur Abraham?

        The guy chose to fight at middleweight because that's where the lower risk/higher reward fights were for him. The reward was all he cared about, there was nothing stopping him fighting a traditional campaign at a more comfortable weight class if he wanted to.

        The guy's got away with talking and deflecting because of who he is and, by the standard of boxers, is more articulate than most. Had he taken the GGG fight when it was on a plate his demise would have come even sooner and he and his father knew it.

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        • dannnnn
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          Not sure why everyone's acting like he was a different man in there, it was the same Eubank Jr. as always, maybe just a slight bit worse due to age and the weight cut. He's always boxed like he's wearing lead boots and he's always been stifled by a decent jab.

          Perhaps he used to be a touch bolder and less fragile but he's been like this for ages now. He looked no different in his two fights against Liam Smith.

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            Good article and spot on as regards the Eubanks Jr weight and ‘clues-in-the-performance’ journey 2019-2025. His arms and, in particular, his legs looked painfully thin on Saturday. There are £20Million+ reasons why Eubank Jr can, of course, point to he having made the right call to go back down to middleweight. Nonetheless, it’s a shame that the Groves loss, and I guess Roy Jones Jr, convinced him to stay at Middle. I hope Eubank doesn’t (but probably will) now decide to give SuperMiddle a go: when it’s gone, it’s gone and, after the 1st Benn fight, and his career overall, he should be proud. One hell of a run for a Silver Spoon kid….

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              Chris Eubank Junior should never have moved back down from Super Middle Weight to Middle Weight divisions 'that was his biggest mistake'.

              Yes Eubank Junior has been involved in many big domestic fights, and whether people like to admit it or not? He has beaten some really solid fighters 'win or lose he has always shown that he is really tough, and has masses of resolve inside the boxing ring. Lonsdale British Champion, and IBO World Champion I personally think he has had a commendable career'.

              But during the latter stages of his career, Chris Eubank Junior has lost fights in a manner which he should not have 'all because he has been one of those modern day fighters, who believe it is essential that they weight drain themselves to compete at unnatural fighting weights'.

              Note: Already by the time Chris Eubank Junior fought Liam Williams 'his usually really impressive endurance levels, had markedly decreased. Former fighters such as Paul Smith Junior, were the first analysts from the boxing media to point this out. He stated in his own words? That Chris Eubank Junior appears not to be able to fight at a high pace anymore, and he is fiddling his way through fights'.

              Quite simply certain folk within the boxing community, act all mystified and confused by fighters declines 'when for an individual like myself, who has knowledge and experience in other sports beyond boxing. It was always commonsense and inevitable, that any fighter who incorporates weight draining practices into their lifestyle at some point is going to suffer serious consequences. They will all lose fights which, in solid form they would win. Or they will all be forced to moved up in weight, or retire from the sport due to not being able to make their chosen weight class in optimal condition. We see those very stories play out, time and time again in boxing and certain folk act all clueless like they don't know why'.

              Chris Eubank Junior vs Conor Benn II 'his body just could not take it anymore. Physiologically the negative accumulative effects of his lifestyle to make 160 pounds, especially with a added rehydration clause decreased his conditioning, durability and overall well-being. To the point where, in my opinion he should not have fought Conor Benn II at 160 pounds'.

              The rematch should have been at 168 pounds, with no rehydration clause in an ideal world 'but this is modern day boxing, and like I have been saying for a very long time. The lower weight divisions, really is not a competition to see primarily who the best fighters are. It is a competition much of the time, to see which fighters can weight drain themselves the best then maintain their fitness. Since post 1980 lower weight class boxing, from a pure competitive perception has decreased in significance and value'.

              To conclude: Chris Eubank Junior has paid the price, for his use of backwards training practices 'that no other top athletes in sports such as Soccer, Basketball, Rugby, Tennis, Track and Field athletes use'.

              Maybe the good business he made from his two fights vs Conor Benn I & II 'will make him feel better. But in years from now when? The material things disappear; YOU are only left with your legacy. And the facts are? Chris Eubank Junior has lost two fights which he should not have vs Liam Smith I, and Conor Benn II'.

              Eubank Junior has damaged his very commendable boxing career and resume 'also because he chased material gain. This was clear to see. This current modern era of boxing, is an unprecedented time for this type of behaviour and condition in my observation'.

              Overall people that understand boxing, and physiology 'know why Chris Eubank Junior's decline was rapidly decreased during the past few years. It is no mystery, it is down to the backwards utilisation of toxic modern day boxing practices such as weight draining tactics' etc.







              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; Today, 12:12 PM.

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              • Jamesboxing
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                The fight he just had with benn felt like the one he had with Degale where in that fight degale was the one who couldn’t pull the trigger anymore and just wasn’t the same fighter after his war Badou Jack and now we just saw that with Chris. Just couldn’t put the trigger and he just looked shot to bits, if he’d of been in there with a legit 160/168lb guy he’d of been knocked out in 6 rounds. Guys made a boat load of money to say he’s never won a world title or even beat an elite fighter and now he’s got twins on the way aswell it’s better for him to just call it a day because sticking round and going up to 168 he’s just gonna take damage that isn’t necessary

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