Comments Thread For: Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua due to fight on December 19 in Miami

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  • Smash
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    #51
    this fight is only dangerous if joshua makes it so, a hard sparring match is very likely not that dangerous

    after all ive read boots ennis is dropping heavyweights in sparing so...........

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    • TintaBoricua
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      #52
      Originally posted by Coverdale

      I think you're overthinking this. AJ might be past his best but he's a seasoned professional with truly concussive power. JP is a guy from YouTube who lost to Tommy Fury, who himself is a grifter from reality TV. If this is not fixed in some way or AJ decides to carry him, this is possibly one of the most dangerous mismatches ever sanctioned.
      You might be right. I keep forgetting that Joshua is an Olympic gold medalist. That Dubois knockout be damned…Paul might’ve bit off more than he can chew. And indeed, it’s kind of topsy turvy how Tank-Paul was exhibition but AJ-Paul will be officially sanctioned. It’s pretty nuts.

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      • Moz_boxing
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        #53
        Originally posted by TintaBoricua

        I might be in the minority here but I think Jake catches a lot of flack for the wrong reasons. If people want to knock his boxing skills and say he’s not Ali, Mayweather, Bud, or Usyk…sure, I get that. I wouldn’t expect anybody in their right mind to think he’s up there with them. But he’s okay enough to where I’m at this point convinced he’s done alright skill-wise for somebody that literally started boxing slightly more than half a decade ago. I think on a subconscious level what irks people is the fact that Jake has basically strolled into boxing with no amateur training, beaten a lot of high profile fighters (regardless of MMA/boxing) and is making MUCH MUCH MUCH more than somebody that probably has MUCH MUCH MUCH more talent…but doesn’t have the social backing so they make huge bucks but not Netflix money huge.

        I’m not saying Paul beats AJ by the way. I’m just saying (as per my last post) that if I wanted someone to get the job done I’d pick Tank over AJ…simply for the fact that Tank hasn’t been massively concussed like AJ or coming off a long layoff since September 2024 (Dubois KO). AJ should win…I just would’ve rather had Tank get the job done is all.

        Those press conferences are going to be really awkward. I like AJ, but he is not quick-witted or witty for that matter. Paul’s going to insult him and AJ is going to try and talk trash but it’s going to come off as disjointed. None of this really matters. Let December come…
        I get the points you making about why people dislike Jake Paul. But let me tell you something i'm not one of these people, yes i think his fights are clown shows fighting a nearly 60 years old Mike Tyson is a all time low but i still dont hate him as a person because he does what 99 percent of people would do.

        However i spent my whole life in boxing my father had more than 200 amateur fights my brother was national champ in the amateurs and i did my fair share of fighting and still do but first and foremost i analyze boxing my whole life since i'm a kid and let me tell you boxing is about levels.

        You have to be troll to say you think AJ should win but tank had a better chance. Jake Paul is so many level below AJ not when it comes to power or athletic abilities, noo just pure boxing skills and talent. AJ could just decide to move around and box like he did against Andy Ruiz and still would KO Paul in the first two rounds.

        There is noway on earth Paul can beat AJ. Paul can not beat any Top 50 Cruiserweight and not any top 100 Heavyweight. AJ would beat Paul with one arm using 30 percent of his power and that is no joke.

        You either new to boxing or you don't understand boxing or still my first bet you are just trolling.

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        • Moz_boxing
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          #54
          Originally posted by Coverdale

          I think you're overthinking this. AJ might be past his best but he's a seasoned professional with truly concussive power. JP is a guy from YouTube who lost to Tommy Fury, who himself is a grifter from reality TV. If this is not fixed in some way or AJ decides to carry him, this is possibly one of the most dangerous mismatches ever sanctioned.
          Thank you. "One of the most dangerous mismatches ever sanctioned" it's the perfect way to describe this fight i just wasted my time writing all these words but you perfectly described it in 1 sentence.

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          • Moz_boxing
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            #55
            Originally posted by ricardo garcia
            i seem to remember everyone saying fury v ngannou was a dangerous mismatch (heavyweight champ versus a guy who had never boxed professionally) and then the guy who got put on his ass was fury
            Ngannou was/is a Heavyweight Champion in MMA a combat sport and his base is boxing/kickboxing he uses his striking almost exclusively his hands to knockout fighters including other standup fighters and legends like Overeem he fought multiple fighters who specialized in striking and had over 50 fights like Roizenstruk who had 85 kickboxing fights and 76 wins. Ngannou knocked him out in seconds.

            Ngannou my friend is no Jake Paul and funny enough Ngannou is not only more powerful but also a way better natural fighter and even a way better boxer than Paul.

            This fight can't be real going from Davis 135 pound to AJ? Going from going the distance against a shot JCC Jr who did not even try to fight back and 60 year old Tyson to AJ?

            I think before the end of the year we will all understand what this is really about. Again a real fight between AJ and Paul ends in 60 seconds max. and possibly ends very bad.

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            • LA_2_Vegas
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              #56


              He lost that fight to Fury, but he put Fury on his azz with a jab in the last round. Fury was holding all fight and didn't come off that much better. Whatever you think of his skill level, Paul has continued to better opposition (somewhat) and Fury has not.

              The win over Mike Perry, who had boxed pro before, and is still bareknuckle boxing today, was a decent win,, he really busted him up with just a jab. Perry was coming aggressive all fight, and JP stuck a jab in his face and did a number.

              The fight with Nate Diaz was decent competition on fight night, you think a Diaz Brother wanted to lose to Jake Paul? You might not think this is great boxing comp, but a guy like Diaz was coming to take Paul's head off as best he could. Diaz sparred many high level pro boxers in his long career, and is known as a warrior; that was decent work for JP.

              Anderson Silva - boxing was not his #1 game, but he had many years of experience in it, and fully respects the craft. Knows how to prepare for fights, southpaw, high level champion mindset. Yeah he's isn't the best in boxing, but you still have to beat that guy

              He was in trouble against Chavez Jr. though - had Jr done anything in the first 4 rounds (and wasn't compromised by the cartel), he probably would have won that fight. However, even saying that, I thought Paul did some things to stymie Chavez and stop him from really building the needed momentum to get a knockdown or stoppage.....I wouldn't have expected him to be mentally tough enough to stick with it like he did in the last couple rounds.

              I'm not saying he will be competitive with AJ, just the matchmaking to "building" JP has been an interesting approach. There are a couple of "real" fights in there. Although he is not beating high level boxers, he's fought guys who have a lot of professional ring experience.

              For me, the appeal here is just to see for how long can he be competent in there.

              Paul has more pro boxing experience than Ngannou.
              Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; Today, 05:14 PM.

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              • Theshotyoudontsee
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                #57
                Paul is worth over a 100 million. He doesn't need the money. His boxing career is an extension of his social media stuff. He is good enough to compete and beat b level MMA guys and bad boxers. Starting with Tyson, Paul entered the fixed glorified sparring match phase.

                He is good friends with Tyson, gave him a big payday and did not try to beat him. He is good friends with AJ and he is giving AJ another big payday while creating a freakshow spectacle. He will have millions tuning in to see if AJ is going to rip his head off, which is what many want to see happen to Jake....or if Jake will pull off a miracle and land something that drops AJ.

                That is the narrative that will be built. What will actually happen is that AJ will box him around the ring and allow Jake a few moments of success, with the understanding that neither guy is going in to try and hurt the other guy.

                Same as Paul/Tyson. Paul has the power to do this because of his fame from youtube and huge following. It is the derpy internet age. Just the way it is.
                Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; Today, 05:01 PM.

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                • ricardo garcia
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Moz_boxing

                  Ngannou was/is a Heavyweight Champion in MMA a combat sport and his base is boxing/kickboxing he uses his striking almost exclusively his hands to knockout fighters including other standup fighters and legends like Overeem he fought multiple fighters who specialized in striking and had over 50 fights like Roizenstruk who had 85 kickboxing fights and 76 wins. Ngannou knocked him out in seconds.

                  Ngannou my friend is no Jake Paul and funny enough Ngannou is not only more powerful but also a way better natural fighter and even a way better boxer than Paul.

                  This fight can't be real going from Davis 135 pound to AJ? Going from going the distance against a shot JCC Jr who did not even try to fight back and 60 year old Tyson to AJ?

                  I think before the end of the year we will all understand what this is really about. Again a real fight between AJ and Paul ends in 60 seconds max. and possibly ends very bad.
                  im not convinced ngannou is a better boxer than jake paul at all given how easily jake paul has done against the MMA fighters hes fought in boxing.... looking at it now to check, the bookmakers give jake paul a better chance of winning against joshua than they gave to ngannou against fury

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                  • LA_2_Vegas
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                    #59
                    If all he can do against AJ is convince some people that there is a redeemable boxing quality in him....then i could see

                    Ngannou,

                    Wardley - most lucrative White Collar fight of all time.

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                      #60
                      Well ,Jakie boy getting sparked tf out for millions of dollars then, there is no way fake paul survives in there with a full blown top hw if they fight for 'real' cant think of another scenario where jakie boy ends on his feet for 8 rounds. Unless ofc , the fix is in.

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