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  • Oregonian
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    #21
    Originally posted by LAchargers373

    If Bootsy wants more money he has to beat some better people. If he understands that his record is a joke when compared to Ortiz”s. If thinks it’s an easy fight like you and everyone says then take less (which is completely valid position when you compare the 2”s resumes) win the fight and then everything Ortiz has will be his. If he wants more money he should start fighting better opponents to give his position more leverage. Thats all I’m saying, that’s a completely logical and valid stance, which is what anyone who knows anything about boxing understands. Thats what Oscar said too basically. Y’all just so pathetic and don’t want bootsy to ever fight anyone EXCEPT Ortiz bwahahaha. Funny thing is WHEN that fight happens yall gonna be brought back to reality.
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    Meanwhile your Boogeyman Ortiz is asking for $10 million to fight Boots. He know what time it is so he’s pricing himself out of the fight.
    Ortiz biggest paycheck was $2.5 million fighting the very famous and guaranteed PPV star, Bohachuk and made $2.5 million but to fight the unknown Boots, he wants $10 million. That tells you Boots is a BIG name whether you like it or not.

    Hopefully after Spence destroys Spence he can go fight the dangerous Ugas or perhaps Abbas Baraou.

    Mark my words my guy, Boots will unify 154 Ibs division and it’s going to hurt you so very much to witness that. We’ll be here to remind you.

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    • BlackRobb
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      #22
      I've never seen such cowardice in all of my 50+ years of watching boxing. This man flew to your state, stepped to your face in your house and pointed to his watch and said "It's time!",:and you turn around and talk about fighting some broken-down alcoholic who has never fought at 154???

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      • LAchargers373
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        #23
        Originally posted by Oregonian
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        Meanwhile your Boogeyman Ortiz is asking for $10 million to fight Boots. He know what time it is so he’s pricing himself out of the fight.
        Ortiz biggest paycheck was $2.5 million fighting the very famous and guaranteed PPV star, Bohachuk and made $2.5 million but to fight the unknown Boots, he wants $10 million. That tells you Boots is a BIG name whether you like it or not.

        Hopefully after Spence destroys Spence he can go fight the dangerous Ugas or perhaps Abbas Baraou.

        Mark my words my guy, Boots will unify 154 Ibs division and it’s going to hurt you so very much to witness that. We’ll be here to remind you.
        You’re so dumb you think he got more for bohachuk than madrimov ROFL. ANNNNND the irony or your dumb post is bohachuk would be BY FAR the best name on bootsys resume. Continue living in your fantasy world where everyoneeeee is ducking bootsy lol. You’ll see soon.

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        • Jayallday9
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          #24
          Originally posted by archiemoore1
          I had massive respect for Vergil Ortiz since he fights tough opponents consistently and never showed anything other than the willingness to face anyone. Then after he beat Lubin, he calls Boots over and says we gotta make this fight, but when he looked Boots in the eyes and heard how confdent he is, it was like staring a tiger in the eyes. It was as if, he immediately understood. And he started saying "your side was talking crap 1st", and all this capitulation and all this bs that sounded like word salad, like he was copping a plea and getting nervous b4 my eyes. Like he wasn't eager to do it, like was more worried about who said what 1st, instead of f..ck that, let's do this asap. And that's when I knew the excuses would start to come in the days to follow. And lo and behold, they did. 1st from Grandpa Robert Garcia who said, "Vergil has many options, he's a Mexican... He's the money man", and, "if we gotta do it, okay but it might be way bigger later". Then came excuses from Oscar who said, "we're the A-side, everybody comes to see Vergil. As long as they know we're the A-side" (classic code words for pricing out of the fight"). Then Vergil himself, who once said he doesn't care who he fights, said, "my dream fight is Errol Spence, I want him next"... Why would a proud warrior with a champion mentality want a guy who ruined his health with years of alcohol abuse, bad car accidents that knocked him out cold and took weeks worth of his memory away, and got brutally beaten by Crawford, had eye surgery, who has much less punch resistance than before, slower speed, reflexes, & timing, and has been inactive for 3 years? Beating him proves absolutely nothing. Now his team is said to want 10 million to fight Boots, when the highest base salary Vergil ever made was 500K for Bohachuk, plus 60% of the PPV revenue, which brought his total purse to 2.5 million. But why ask for 10 million for Boots when you said repeatedly he hasn't fought nobody, he isn't a star, hasn't done anything at 154, etc? Clearly, all these excuses have been used in boxing countless times throught history. The thing about boxing is that we can always reference all the times that identical excuses were given, to see and understand who really does not want a certain fight. We've seen this movie too many times to count. I thought Vergil was fearless, but he's not, and his team is trying to shape the narrative, but it's not hard to see right through it. None of them including Vergil himself, want any part of Boots
          100%... Ortiz will go down in brutal fashion and they know it

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          • YOU WILL LOSE
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            #25
            i am just in awe,

            such brilliant move by ennis manager eddie hearn,

            they went in there hardcore ,.
            i dont think they ever expected the whole ortiz program to collapse in just 2 days, !

            ennis has all the juice now, !!

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            • Bronx2245
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              #26
              "Yet here we are, with the stage set perfectly, the timing just right, the boxing public drooling … and De La Hoya starts promising the most big, beautiful negotiations you’ve ever seen, followed by Ortiz dropping names of other opponents he may prefer to Ennis. Yep, Ortiz is saying an all-Texas fight against Errol Spence Jnr is the one he really wants. There’s every reason to suspect that’s just a negotiating tactic, an extra piece of ammo to make Ennis accept a 45-55 split or some such division. That had better be all that it is. Because boxing fans are hitting a breaking point."

              See, that's where the fans have to send a message! Is Ortiz vs. Spence Jr. a better fight? Is Boots vs. Charlo a better fight? If Spence and Charlo were active fighters maybe? However, they are not active fighters! Neither Ortiz nor Boots are even Champions at 154! If they're not going to fight each other, at least fight the Champions! But no, in todays clout-chasing world, too many people are searching for names, and money, and not titles and greatness! Thus, I submit Jake Paul as Exhibit A! That's the problem in the sport of Boxing!!! The only way to force change is to hurt them where it counts...in the pockets!!!

              Could We See Vergil Ortiz Vs. Errol Spence Next? “It Would Be The Biggest All Texas Matchup In History” Says Vergil’s Manager
              By James Slater - 11/10/2025

              It seems the fans are getting concerned, worried. Will Vergil Ortiz-Jaron Ennis – arguably the hottest, most fan-demanded fight in the entire sport right now
              Last edited by Bronx2245; Today, 07:55 AM.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #27
                Originally posted by archiemoore1
                I had massive respect for Vergil Ortiz since he fights tough opponents consistently and never showed anything other than the willingness to face anyone. Then after he beat Lubin, he calls Boots over and says we gotta make this fight, but when he looked Boots in the eyes and heard how confdent he is, it was like staring a tiger in the eyes. It was as if, he immediately understood. And he started saying "your side was talking crap 1st", and all this capitulation and all this bs that sounded like word salad, like he was copping a plea and getting nervous b4 my eyes. Like he wasn't eager to do it, like was more worried about who said what 1st, instead of f..ck that, let's do this asap. And that's when I knew the excuses would start to come in the days to follow. And lo and behold, they did. 1st from Grandpa Robert Garcia who said, "Vergil has many options, he's a Mexican... He's the money man", and, "if we gotta do it, okay but it might be way bigger later". Then came excuses from Oscar who said, "we're the A-side, everybody comes to see Vergil. As long as they know we're the A-side" (classic code words for pricing out of the fight"). Then Vergil himself, who once said he doesn't care who he fights, said, "my dream fight is Errol Spence, I want him next"... Why would a proud warrior with a champion mentality want a guy who ruined his health with years of alcohol abuse, bad car accidents that knocked him out cold and took weeks worth of his memory away, and got brutally beaten by Crawford, had eye surgery, who has much less punch resistance than before, slower speed, reflexes, & timing, and has been inactive for 3 years? Beating him proves absolutely nothing. Now his team is said to want 10 million to fight Boots, when the highest base salary Vergil ever made was 500K for Bohachuk, plus 60% of the PPV revenue, which brought his total purse to 2.5 million. But why ask for 10 million for Boots when you said repeatedly he hasn't fought nobody, he isn't a star, hasn't done anything at 154, etc? Clearly, all these excuses have been used in boxing countless times throught history. The thing about boxing is that we can always reference all the times that identical excuses were given, to see and understand who really does not want a certain fight. We've seen this movie too many times to count. I thought Vergil was fearless, but he's not, and his team is trying to shape the narrative, but it's not hard to see right through it. None of them including Vergil himself, want any part of Boots
                Originally posted by Jayallday9

                100%... Ortiz will go down in brutal fashion and they know it
                Good article here!

                "Why Get My Guy Knocked Off Now?” — Bradley Explains Golden Boy’s Plan to Delay Ortiz Jr. vs. Ennis Until It’s Worth Big Money
                By Will Arons - 11/11/2025

                Tim Bradley says Golden Boy Promotions sees no value in making a fight between their fighter, Vergil Ortiz Jr., and Jaron 'Boots' Ennis. They don't want Ortiz


                Last edited by Bronx2245; Today, 07:50 AM.

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                • champion4ever
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by LAchargers373

                  If Bootsy wants more money he has to beat some better people. If he understands that his record is a joke when compared to Ortiz”s. If thinks it’s an easy fight like you and everyone says then take less (which is completely valid position when you compare the 2”s resumes) win the fight and then everything Ortiz has will be his. If he wants more money he should start fighting better opponents to give his position more leverage. Thats all I’m saying, that’s a completely logical and valid stance, which is what anyone who knows anything about boxing understands. Thats what Oscar said too basically. Y’all just so pathetic and don’t want bootsy to ever fight anyone EXCEPT Ortiz bwahahaha. Funny thing is WHEN that fight happens yall gonna be brought back to reality.
                  You constantly attack Jaron the “Booty” man Ennis for his weak resume’ . However, you conveniently never mention how your hero has never challenged for or won a major world title in his entire nine year career.

                  However, the “Booty” man has. Let’s see. Your hero has ducked both Terence Crawford twice and subsequently the man that Ennis defeated to win his first major WBA world welterweight title from Eimantas Stanionis four times.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jayallday9

                    100%... Ortiz will go down in brutal fashion and they know it
                    Facts!!!!

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #30
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                      Originally posted by Grandma Lover
                      Booty anus gonna rematch Lima lmfao bum
                      So I can tell that you don’t like the “Booty” man? It’s ok though. Everyone fears the “Booty man” including Vergil Ortiz and his entire team.

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