Can Fabio Wardley go far without amateur experience?

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #11
    There are levels to this sport, and despite Fabio's raw talent, power and hunger, what he lacks will eventually catch up to him.

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    • El_Mero
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      #12
      Originally posted by Smash

      we shall see

      its a bit more interesting as fabiolo is a puncher on a good run, he prob 2nd in line after the german for a shot now but a fight with fab may pay more so the german might miss out his shot as a result, thats boxing
      And thats been the problem, imo. Kabayel should have 1st shot w/o question. Its no wonder snake White wants to implement his ufc model on boxing

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      • Dr Z
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        #13
        Wardley has already hit his peak. He is a durable man that fights to win when being outclassed. His will power is underrated.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Dr Z
          Wardley has already hit his peak. He is a durable man that fights to win when being outclassed. His will power is underrated.
          its underrated until its overrated

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            #15
            Originally posted by Dr Z
            Wardley has already hit his peak. He is a durable man that fights to win when being outclassed. His will power is underrated.
            And what happens after one reaches one's peak? Decline. So, the question is, how long will Wardley be able to stay at his peak, and is that peak enough to go all the way?

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              #16
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

              And what happens after one reaches one's peak? Decline. So, the question is, how long will Wardley be able to stay at his peak, and is that peak enough to go all the way?
              No. He has reached his limit.

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                If Fabio Wardley is going to be a World Champion 'Then the time is now'.

                This boxing era is going through its conclusive stages 'all the once true elite level heavyweights of this era, are ether miles outside of their peak or inactive in the case of Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

                Note: The Heavyweight Divisions only really has unproven and inexperience rookie fighters like Moses Itauma, and then the fighters such as Parker, Kabayel and Bakole 'who are fighters that were not good enough to be top level heavyweight fighters during the peak years of the Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder Heavyweight reigns. That is the talent pool which currently makes up the Heavyweight Division, outside of Oleksandr Uysk, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

                We have seen front runners at a top level like Daniel Dubois win the IBF heavyweight titles, by producing a statistically anomaly level event vs Anthony Joshua 'and we have witnessed fighters that have been professional fighters for longer periods of time than Anthony Joshua, suddenly be considered elite level heavyweight fighters. Just because they have decided after the best part of a decade to suddenly win a few top level fights i.e. I am talking about Joseph Parker and Agit Kabayel'.

                The timing for Fabio Wardley to be a genuine Heavyweight Champion, is near enough optimal for him 'the actual Undisputed Heavyweight Champion in Oleksandr Uysk, although he is a supreme fighter and extremely talented. He has never really struck me as the most robust and durable fighter, in terms of being able to recover from fights. Nearly every single fight he has had in the heavyweight divisions, as written him off out of the game'.

                Oleksandr Uysk may have beaten Tyson Fury I & II, Anthony Joshua I & II and Derek Chisora 'but he came out of all of those fights completely smashed up. Oleksandr Uysk vacated his IBF Heavyweight titles, because in my opinion? He was struggling to deal with the intensity of being a Heavyweight Champion. There was plenty of time for him to make a defense of his IBF titles between the first and second Fury vs Uysk fights, but instead? He voluntary chose to vacate he IBF titles'.

                I don't think Fabio Wardley is intimidated by Oleksandr Uysk 'as Uysk is not that type of fighter. He does not have destructive power, and even outside the ring? I don't think he has the presents or aura of past heavyweight champions such as Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson or George Foreman and many more'.

                I don't think Fabio Wardley has the skill for skill boxing ability, and multi-dimensional game to be a long time reigning Champion 'and even the best attributes of his game are nothing spectacular. Wardley just like Dubois are game, aggressive and physiologically strong heavyweight fighters. And during the latter stages of this heavyweight era, that has been enough for a fighter to start making a impact at top level in the sport'.

                What Fabio Wardley has going for him, is that he has serious resolve 'his best wins on his resume, have been in fights were he was not winning. But he found a way to turn those fights around, against Justis Huni and Joseph Parker. Against Huni he turned the fight around with a single power punch, and against Joseph Parker he slowly but surely overhauled Parker with his offense and pressure fighting ability. From a Gladiatorial perspective, those are solid wins'.

                To conclude: So overall, can Fabio Wardley win a World title similar to the way Daniel Dubois had one great performance vs a under-par Anthony Joshua? Yes, I would not be totally surprised if he achieved such a feat. But just like I stated with Daniel Dubois? It will be almost inevitable, that Fabio Wardley at some point in his career is going to be completely smashed up and lasered out'.

                I stated that Daniel Dubois as a IBF Heavyweight Champion, no matter which way he turns 'if it is to fight Uysk II, for the Undisputed titles. Or rematch Anthony Joshua II, this guy is going to be smashed up. Because that is the type of fighter he is at top level. Dubois will ether win in spectacular fashion, or lose in spectacular fashion'.

                Fabio Wardley is a very similar fighter to Daniel Dubois in that sense, but with more proven resolve at a solid level 'I don't really rate him super highly in terms of pure ability, he is just a fighter to his credit. That is rising up in the heavyweight divisions during its latter stages, when the competitive landscape is not super treacherous compared to the peak years of the era' etc.
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                  Hasim Rahman did it twice...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    If Fabio Wardley is going to be a World Champion 'Then the time is now'.

                    This boxing era is going through its conclusive stages 'all the once true elite level heavyweights of this era, are ether miles outside of their peak or inactive in the case of Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

                    Note: The Heavyweight Divisions only really has unproven and inexperience rookie fighters like Moses Itauma, and then the fighters such as Parker, Kabayel and Bakole 'who are fighters that were not good enough to be top level heavyweight fighters during the peak years of the Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder Heavyweight reigns. That is the talent pool which currently makes up the Heavyweight Division, outside of Oleksandr Uysk, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua'.

                    We have seen front runners at a top level like Daniel Dubois win the IBF heavyweight titles, by producing a statistically anomaly level event vs Anthony Joshua 'and we have witnessed fighters that have been professional fighters for longer periods of time than Anthony Joshua, suddenly be considered elite level heavyweight fighters. Just because they have decided after the best part of a decade to suddenly win a few top level fights i.e. I am talking about Joseph Parker and Agit Kabayel'.

                    The timing for Fabio Wardley to be a genuine Heavyweight Champion, is near enough optimal for him 'the actual Undisputed Heavyweight Champion in Oleksandr Uysk, although he is a supreme fighter and extremely talented. He has never really struck me as the most robust and durable fighter, in terms of being able to recover from fights. Nearly every single fight he has had in the heavyweight divisions, as written him off out of the game'.

                    Oleksandr Uysk may have beaten Tyson Fury I & II, Anthony Joshua I & II and Derek Chisora 'but he came out of all of those fights completely smashed up. Oleksandr Uysk vacated his IBF Heavyweight titles, because in my opinion? He was struggling to deal with the intensity of being a Heavyweight Champion. There was plenty of time for him to make a defense of his IBF titles between the first and second Fury vs Uysk fights, but instead? He voluntary chose to vacate he IBF titles'.

                    I don't think Fabio Wardley is intimidated by Oleksandr Uysk 'as Uysk is not that type of fighter. He does not have destructive power, and even outside the ring? I don't think he has the presents or aura of past heavyweight champions such as Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson or George Foreman and many more'.

                    I don't think Fabio Wardley has the skill for skill boxing ability, and multi-dimensional game to be a long time reigning Champion 'and even the best attributes of his game are nothing spectacular. Wardley just like Dubois are game, aggressive and physiologically strong heavyweight fighters. And during the latter stages of this heavyweight era, that has been enough for a fighter to start making a impact at top level in the sport'.

                    What Fabio Wardley has going for him, is that he has serious resolve 'his best wins on his resume, have been in fights were he was not winning. But he found a way to turn those fights around, against Justis Huni and Joseph Parker. Against Huni he turned the fight around with a single power punch, and against Joseph Parker he slowly but surely overhauled Parker with his offense and pressure fighting ability. From a Gladiatorial perspective, those are solid wins'.

                    To conclude: So overall, can Fabio Wardley win a World title similar to the way Daniel Dubois had one great performance vs a under-par Anthony Joshua? Yes, I would not be totally surprised if he achieved such a feat. But just like I stated with Daniel Dubois? It will be almost inevitable, that Fabio Wardley at some point in his career is going to be completely smashed up and lasered out'.

                    I stated that Daniel Dubois as a IBF Heavyweight Champion, no matter which way he turns 'if it is to fight Uysk II, for the Undisputed titles. Or rematch Anthony Joshua II, this guy is going to be smashed up. Because that is the type of fighter he is at top level. Dubois will ether win in spectacular fashion, or lose in spectacular fashion'.

                    Fabio Wardley is a very similar fighter to Daniel Dubois in that sense, but with more proven resolve at a solid level 'I don't really rate him super highly in terms of pure ability, he is just a fighter to his credit. That is rising up in the heavyweight divisions during its latter stages, when the competitive landscape is not super treacherous compared to the peak years of the era' etc.
                    LOL! Joshua got obliterated in the first fight & would get absolutely destroyed in the rematch. Give it a rest... Your hero's best wins are over a 39 year old Povetkin, 41 year old inactive Klitschko & a rematch win over a fat slob/untrained Ruiz...

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