Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao II talks initiated

[IronDanHamza]

Idgaf if it was .5 clinches per round according to your calculations. If it ruined the action and skewed the outcome, which it did both, it was a s$$t strategy, and the worst superfight in the history of the sport, but you love it

How can it have done both of those things when there were less than 2 clinches per round?

It literally means there was objectively not excessive clinching.

[LA_2_Vegas]

Which part of less than 2 clinches per round and thus objectively not being excessive does your inbred brain not understand?

So you'd agree that it was 20 times the amount of clinches that Pac initiated in the fight?

Or put another way, 2000% more clinches initiated by Mayweather in a 12 round fight.

[IronDanHamza]

So you'd agree that it was 20 times the amount of clinches that Pac initiated in the fight?

Or put another way, 2000% more clinches initiated by Mayweather in a 12 round fight.

21 times more.

But why would that stat be relevant?

21 clinches in a 12 round fight is not excessive. That's just a literal fact.

[LA_2_Vegas]

21 times more.

But why would that stat be relevant?

21 clinches in a 12 round fight is not excessive. That's just a literal fact.

I'm just restating your stat in another way and letting people decide what they think might be excessive.

You must agree with the following:

Mayweather initiated 21 times the amount of clinches than Pac did.

Which is another way of saying, 2100% more clinches than Manny.

Is there any other stat that came out of fight night that skewed in such a direction?

[IronDanHamza]

I'm just restating your stat in another way and letting people decide what they think might be excessive.

You must agree with the following:

Mayweather initiated 21 times the amount of clinches than Pac did.

Which is another way of saying, 2100% more clinches than Manny.

That's a non sensical argument and bordering on "what about ism."

How many times Pacquaio imitated a clinch is irrelevant as the claim isn't Pacquaio clinched more or as much as Floyd did.

The claim is Mayweather excessively clinched in the fight. The fact is he clinched 21 times in a 12 round fight equaling to less than 2 times per round, which, is objectively, not excessive.

[LA_2_Vegas]

That's a non sensical argument and bordering on "what about ism."

How many times Pacquaio imitated a clinch is irrelevant as the claim isn't Pacquaio clinched more or as much as Floyd did.

The claim is Mayweather excessively clinched in the fight. The fact is he clinched 21 times in a 12 round fight equaling to less than 2 times per round, which, is objectively, not excessive.

It's relevant to the guy's claim that Mayweather mucked up the fight with his holding.

All in all, you seem to agree that he was illegally holding, but "just" 21 times.

[IronDanHamza]

It's relevant to the guy's claim that Mayweather mucked up the fight with his holding.

All in all, you seem to agree that he was illegally holding, but "just" 21 times.

It's totally irrelevant.

Right, the claim is he "mucked up the fight" by excessively holding which is demonstrably false.

As, 21 in 12, is on average less than 2 per round, and thus, demonstrable and objectively, not excessive.

I'm confused as to how this can be made easier to understand.

[LA_2_Vegas]

It's totally irrelevant.

Right, the claim is he "mucked up the fight" by excessively holding which is demonstrably false.

As, 21 in 12, is on average less than 2 per round, and thus, demonstrable and objectively, not excessive.

I'm confused as to how this can be made easier to understand.

But clinching is illegal, right?

That's the part you are pretending to act confused about.. You want people to believe 21 is not excessive, but holding to stall is not allowed at all.

[LA_2_Vegas]

IronDanHamza Yeah, I'm being a little tongue-in-cheek about it.

But Floyd's dad saw the fear too and said so in the moment.

Anyway, there was probably a better fight between these two that could have happened, that's all.

[IronDanHamza]

But clinching is illegal, right?

That's the part you are pretending to act confused about.. You want people to believe 21 is not excessive, but holding to stall is not allowed at all.

Clinching is part of the sport and has been from its genesis.

21 is not excessive, thus the point. 21 is less than 2 per round, that is not excessive clinching in a boxing match. That’s not an opinion, that a fact.

If you want to see excessive clinching then go and watch any Wladimir Klitschko fight, where he clinches over 20 times PER ROUND. Thats is excessive.

Or Muhammad Ali, or Mike Tyson, or Bernard Hopkins or a number of other fighters who excessively clinch in fights.

21 in 12 is not excessive.