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  • steeve steel
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    #11
    Yes to the Ali Act, but no one can deny that 1) There are too many belts and organizations 2) Some boxers make way too much money for insignificant fights (SEE CANELO), while others don't make enough 3) Yes, developing boxers takes time, but marketing has taken over talent (SEE Ryan Garcia) 4) Boxing's obsession with "vir-gin-ity" aka the "0" losses is ridiculous and preventing good fights, as promoters protect upcoming fighters for too long. 5) The hypocrisy of all these promoters is scandalizing! They all hopped the the Turkish D. wagon, ate in his hand, took his money, and now they are worried, and will soon call him a traitor for doing business with White.

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    • archiemoore1
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      #12
      Oscar is dyeing his hair black now. His real color is fishscale gray

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      • M111
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        #13
        Originally posted by MulaKO
        Say what you will about Oscar but it seems like he’s the only one with balls at this moment to be taking a stand against these f@ckin snakes in the grass who will destroy the sport and monopolize it
        A journalist stood up and asked Dana White directly about this at the pre fight conference for Crawford vs Canelo. This site has already published numerous more in-depth articles about Dana White’s lobbying for the removal of the Ali act. Hearn and other promoters have already commented on it. Glad to hear Oscars voice adding to that but he’s far from being the only or the first to complain about it.

        The reality is that Dana White has friends in high places, one in particular in the white house so regardless of how unfair or ****** it is to abolish it, my guess is that it’ll get pushed through.

        If it was in any other country than the US it probably wouldn’t but your political system and due process is so utterly corrupt stuff like this gets approved all the time. If it wasn’t corrupt and badly managed we wouldn’t have half a dozen commercially motivated sanctioning bodies instead of one non profit independent one like we should. Corruption has brought boxing to this mess - dodgy promoters alongside dodgy sanctioning bodies. All the your side of the street crap and ranking systems that make no sense to anyone.

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        • Theshotyoudontsee
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          #14
          The big reason many people even get into professional fighting is because of the huge money that can be made once a fighter reaches a certain level. MMA is not boxing. MMA has some good athletes and fighters, but it doesn't require the skill that boxing does. MMA fighters need to get to the very top of the sport to make big money.

          If White offers boxers tiny paychecks he won't last long in the sport. If boxing in general became a controlled entity where the fighters can't make much, then the pool of talent will dwindle even worse than it has. No person in their right mind will dedicate themselves to months of roadwork and endless sparring and training to go in and fight 10 or 12 hard rounds for small money.

          MMA guys don't need that. They fight for three rounds. They train to grapple or kick someone in the face. The fights are not tests of skill, they are basically toughman contests to see who can be the most brutal in a short time period.

          Two totally different sports. I agree partially with Oscar, but the whole "we bring up prospects for years until they are ready" gets old. If a guy goes pro, he should be ready to fight good fighters. Sure he isn't ready for a champ, but he shouldn't need 20 fights to fight any notable opponent IMO. That is part of why boxing sucks now, you have guys fighting 20 soft touches while being hyped to hell.

          Honestly there should be a big winner's purse and a loser's purse worth quite a bit less, with a KO bonus. Motivate guys to make exciting fights and bring the sport back to life.

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          • TMLT87
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            #15
            Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee
            The fights are not tests of skill, they are basically toughman contests to see who can be the most brutal in a short time period.
            Sounds like you dont have a ****ing clue what you're watching.

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            • boxingitis
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              #16
              Originally posted by steeve steel
              Yes to the Ali Act, but no one can deny that 1) There are too many belts and organizations 2) Some boxers make way too much money for insignificant fights (SEE CANELO), while others don't make enough 3) Yes, developing boxers takes time, but marketing has taken over talent (SEE Ryan Garcia) 4) Boxing's obsession with "vir-gin-ity" aka the "0" losses is ridiculous and preventing good fights, as promoters protect upcoming fighters for too long. 5) The hypocrisy of all these promoters is scandalizing! They all hopped the the Turkish D. wagon, ate in his hand, took his money, and now they are worried, and will soon call him a traitor for doing business with White.
              MMA
              UFC Champ Belt
              Bellator Champ Belt
              One Champ Belt
              PFL Champ Belt

              They never unify or become Undisputed
              Last edited by boxingitis; 10-21-2025, 10:47 PM.

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              • steeve steel
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                #17
                Originally posted by boxingitis

                MMA
                UFC Champ Belt
                Bellator Champ Belt
                One Champ Belt
                PFL Champ Belt

                They never unify or become Undisputed
                One is mostly Muy thai and PFL is fringe. Oh and Bellator is dead. lol

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                • LA_2_Vegas
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                  #18
                  I'm not hearing any real cogent argument from Oscar, or any of these guys though?

                  "That's shady" and "Nobody has ever tried to change this" aren't compelling points.
                  Last edited by LA_2_Vegas; 10-22-2025, 02:43 PM.

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                  • MulaKO
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by M111

                    A journalist stood up and asked Dana White directly about this at the pre fight conference for Crawford vs Canelo. This site has already published numerous more in-depth articles about Dana White’s lobbying for the removal of the Ali act. Hearn and other promoters have already commented on it. Glad to hear Oscars voice adding to that but he’s far from being the only or the first to complain about it.

                    The reality is that Dana White has friends in high places, one in particular in the white house so regardless of how unfair or ****** it is to abolish it, my guess is that it’ll get pushed through.

                    If it was in any other country than the US it probably wouldn’t but your political system and due process is so utterly corrupt stuff like this gets approved all the time. If it wasn’t corrupt and badly managed we wouldn’t have half a dozen commercially motivated sanctioning bodies instead of one non profit independent one like we should. Corruption has brought boxing to this mess - dodgy promoters alongside dodgy sanctioning bodies. All the your side of the street crap and ranking systems that make no sense to anyone.
                    All good and by the way , I’m not in the country you are assuming I’m in

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                    • TMLT87
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by boxingitis

                      MMA
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                      Bellator Champ Belt
                      One Champ Belt
                      PFL Champ Belt

                      They never unify or become Undisputed
                      Its very rare that a champ outside the UFC seems like a credible challenger to the UFC champ though. Thats not just down to the UFCs marketing either, a lot of the time if you look through records you'll see that that a non UFC champ lost to a guy (or lost to a guy who lost to a guy etc etc) who was in the UFC and didnt do well.

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