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  • LAchargers373
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    #121
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

    Or, they say Ennis doesn't deserve to fight Ortiz now because he ducked him before. Da fuck?
    Ennis never fought anyone ever lol. Idc if he fight Ortiz I wouldn’t mind it I just think Ortiz been putting in work climbing the ladder why should Bootsy get to jump rungs? Vergil is fighting killers every fight. Bootsy is fighting cab drivers. They are not the same. Vergil is a proven commodity. Put Bootsy in with Madrimov or bakram see how he looks. If he’s all that and a bag of chips like you say let him get that belt. Put in the work like everyone else. If he’s beat bakram and got the ibf ortiz is already lined up to fight fundora for his wbc after lubin, that would be a crazy unification/undisputed title fight. But we alllllll know Bootsy ain’t going near ANYONE. His next fight will be against abass barou. If ykyk

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      #122
      Originally posted by LAchargers373

      Bro he called him out by name BEFORE TOO. And then DUCKED and has continued fighting BUMS. After defeating the dangerous Usman Lima (lmao) he has now again “called out” Vergil. Here’s the thing. Why is he calling out Ortiz when Ortiz has a fight already lined up in a month? And to top that off his promoter is actually making a deal with another cab driver abass Baraou. You know bakram don’t have a fight lined up right? Why isn’t Bootsy trying to get his title shot at the IBF that’s the title he had at 147. He could’ve already fought bakram but he’s scared. Same reason he dropped out of the WBO rankings at 147 soon as he became mandatory for bud Crawford. It’s cause HE DONT WANT THE FIGHTS. Bootsy says “I want Ortiz Crawford bakram” but then when he’s buds mando he drops out of the fight before they can make it? Then Bootsy calls out Vergil and turki sends life changing offer and Bootsy says “actaully nah I’m good”? Bootsy says he wants bakram last weekend but bakram got no fight lined up they could make the call TODAY but not a peep from Eddie? See the pattern? Bootsy calling out fighters and when they oblige he tucks tail. It’s now happened THREE times. Just look at their records kid. Bootsy has 35 fights with ONE count it ONE fight against a current or former belt holder or challenger. That’s less than 3% of his opponents at championship caliber. Rate that against ANY top fighters resume and you’ll see the discrepancy. I’ll do you one better. Well stack it against vergils record: 23 fights 5 champions or former champions and belt challengers. That’s over 25% of his fights are championship level. Add in Vergil is over a year younger than Bootsy and had a 2 year layoff with a life threatening illness and it’s even more insane the level of competition difference between the 2. I get it Bootsy looks like an amazing fighter when he fights BUMS that are tailor made for him. He didn’t look so hot fighting KAREN 2x though did he? When these 2 fight I’ll bet anyone any amount that Ortiz will end the Bootsy hype train. But I also want to say if Bootsy fights fundora or bakram before Ortiz they will also end him. There’s levels to this. Bootsy isn’t even better than Tim tsyzu. Anyone who thinks that just needs to compare their records and the proof is in the pudding. Tim was undisputed and has beaten better opponents than Bootsy and even with his recent losses his opponents are that much better than all of bootsys that no one can say Bootsy is a better fighter honestly. Anyone saying that has no actual evidence to support that claim based on their records
      You made a lot of points there. I won’t go one on one and dissect all of them.

      However,I will say that Jaron just lacks self-confidence that’s all.

      I honestly and sincerely believe that he is the best and has the most potential of any of the current Junior middleweights in that division.

      I truly believe that. However, until Boots start to believe it himself and start thinking for himself; Then nothing I say won’t mean shit.

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      • SUBZER0ED
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        #123
        Originally posted by Smash

        i dont remember that much hype about katsidis horn or kambo lol but yeah tim got some hype being a famous boxers son may have added to that im sure, tim gave lanky all he could handle with a vicious cut & basically took all the hard fights and paid for it, he could easily have rejected lanky short notice after thurman and taken the easy route fighting guys at home as well
        While being the son of the great Kostya Tszyu surely helped Tim get exposure, he also was doing well on his own merits. He got off the floor to defeat a tough fighter in Gausha. Before that, he KO'd Horn who just three years prior had defeated Pacquiao. He KO'd Harrison, who was the first to defeat Jermell Charlo. He also beat Mendoza who KO'd Fundora. He screwed up by taking on the dangerous Murtazaliev while waiting to rematch Fundora. He should have taken an easier tune up fight. I think that he may have been wrecked by that fight. Meanwhile, Sebastian seemed to realize that he's nearly 6'6" and can fight tall.

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          #124
          Originally posted by LAchargers373

          abas barou is a “titleholder”. He’s the email wba champ cause bud moved up so Abass got elevated to full “champion”. As you can see Bootsy as usual is barking saying all these names hearn saying Ortiz’s name AGAIN but the reality is they are lining up ANOTHER cab driver. See a pattern yet? How long you gonna keep doing this? When I met you first it was the very first Karen fight. You been saying since then” if Bootsy keeps fighting bums I’ll agree with you” it’s 2 years later he’s still fighting bums and you are still saying he’s the best thing since sliced bread smh
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          I’m really not sure why you are so upset my guy. This is the first I hear of Abas Barou. I haven’t read anything about Boots lining up to fight him. If that is true then Boots and his team are fävckyn crazy!
          How long am I doing what? I already responded to you telling you Boots has to fight any of the 4 belt holders. No excuses. What else do you want me to say?

          When Bud and Spence were the belt holders, whom did you want Boots to fight other than those two?
          Last edited by Oregonian; Yesterday, 05:18 PM.

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            #125
            Originally posted by LAchargers373

            Why would bud fight a kid who has never even stepped in the ring with a decent fighter in his life? Crawford would get more recognition beating Xander zayas then beating bootsy Xander’s record is much better ROFL. Delusional bootsys that’s what imma call yall lmao DBs
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            So Crawford got more recognition beating guys like Kell Brooks and Avanesyan? Just fyi, Boots beat up Avanesyan too but but but he sure did give Bud more recognition JUST not Boots. Amiright?

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              #126
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

              I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that! You have a way with words, Mula!
              Poetry at it’s best

              Lmfao

              But you get the gist

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                #127
                Originally posted by Oregonian
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                So Crawford got more recognition beating guys like Kell Brooks and Avanesyan? Just fyi, Boots beat up Avanesyan too but but but he sure did give Bud more recognition JUST not Boots. Amiright?
                Lmao. Except bud had fought already many champions was a multiple weight champion and no one gave him any props for avenysyan even he didn’t. He just got a free like 8M from BK prime for that one. And since you and you DBs all say Bootsy wants Crawford too let me show you.

                997 likes, 131 comments - fromthebottom0161,January 12, 2024 : "Bozy Ennis reveals why team Ennis didn't take BLK Primes offer for a fight between his son Jaron Ennis & Terence Bud Crawford. I'm a fan of Boots too, but can you EJ & Canelo fans that are disguising as Boots fans please stop lying on my page talking about Crawford ducking Boots. At this point, you all should be giving Bud his credit for what he's achieved & how he moves outside of the ring. Thoughts ??? #bozyennis #ennis #jaronennis #bootsennis #tbc #terencecrawford #crawford #budcrawford #boxing #ysm #ysmsportsmedia".


                ^bozo ennis admitting they DUCKED crawford. Turned down life changing money from BK prime. THATS WHY BUD FOUGHT THAT BUM. Get it now? Bootsy was offered crazy money to fight bud on BK prime but they turned it down citing “loyalty to showtime” and “Stephen epinoza”. So enough with the Crawford ducked or won’t fight Bootsy narratives. He tried to. But Bootsy after all their barking turned down life changing money so bud fought avenysyan. See a pattern yet? See the Bootsy playbook?

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                • Oregonian
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by LAchargers373

                  Lmao. Except bud had fought already many champions was a multiple weight champion and no one gave him any props for avenysyan even he didn’t. He just got a free like 8M from BK prime for that one. And since you and you DBs all say Bootsy wants Crawford too let me show you.

                  997 likes, 131 comments - fromthebottom0161,January 12, 2024 : "Bozy Ennis reveals why team Ennis didn't take BLK Primes offer for a fight between his son Jaron Ennis & Terence Bud Crawford. I'm a fan of Boots too, but can you EJ & Canelo fans that are disguising as Boots fans please stop lying on my page talking about Crawford ducking Boots. At this point, you all should be giving Bud his credit for what he's achieved & how he moves outside of the ring. Thoughts ??? #bozyennis #ennis #jaronennis #bootsennis #tbc #terencecrawford #crawford #budcrawford #boxing #ysm #ysmsportsmedia".


                  ^bozo ennis admitting they DUCKED crawford. Turned down life changing money from BK prime. THATS WHY BUD FOUGHT THAT BUM. Get it now? Bootsy was offered crazy money to fight bud on BK prime but they turned it down citing “loyalty to showtime” and “Stephen epinoza”. So enough with the Crawford ducked or won’t fight Bootsy narratives. He tried to. But Bootsy after all their barking turned down life changing money so bud fought avenysyan. See a pattern yet? See the Bootsy playbook?
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                  I was just pointing out the "name recognition" you speak of. Mentioning guys like Xander Zayas giving Bud more recognition. We are multiple threads talking about Boots. Every boxing analyst, expert and coaches are speaking about Boots. No one is talking about Xander and here you are telling us that Xander will give Bud "name recognition". I know you dislike Boots which is fine. I find it amusing that I've already told you multiple times that Boots HAS to fight any of the 154 belt holders and anything short of that is ridiculous.

                  You know what else is amusing? Here's the list o fJunior middleweight (154 lbs.) belt holders.

                  WBO: Xander Zayas
                  IBF: Bakhram Murtazaliev
                  WBA: Abass Baraou*
                  WBC: Sebastian Fundora**

                  *Jaron Ennis is the WBA junior middleweight interim champions.
                  **Vergil Ortiz Jr. is the WBC junior middleweight interim champion

                  How come your boy Ortiz has NOT fought for a title? You are here harping and yapping on about Boots not fighting for a belt yet your boy has had FOUR fights at 154 and has fought ZERO belt holders. I'm sure you are about to justify that dry run with some epic tales about "nobody wanting to fight him" or "everyone was busy" or "he was injured" or some mind bending stuff but one thing you will not escape is Ortiz has spent two years at 154 and has NOT fought for a belt. Is he scared? What's his excuse?

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                  • LAchargers373
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Oregonian

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                    I was just pointing out the "name recognition" you speak of. Mentioning guys like Xander Zayas giving Bud more recognition. We are multiple threads talking about Boots. Every boxing analyst, expert and coaches are speaking about Boots. No one is talking about Xander and here you are telling us that Xander will give Bud "name recognition". I know you dislike Boots which is fine. I find it amusing that I've already told you multiple times that Boots HAS to fight any of the 154 belt holders and anything short of that is ridiculous.

                    You know what else is amusing? Here's the list o fJunior middleweight (154 lbs.) belt holders.

                    WBO: Xander Zayas
                    IBF: Bakhram Murtazaliev
                    WBA: Abass Baraou*
                    WBC: Sebastian Fundora**

                    *Jaron Ennis is the WBA junior middleweight interim champions.
                    **Vergil Ortiz Jr. is the WBC junior middleweight interim champion

                    How come your boy Ortiz has NOT fought for a title? You are here harping and yapping on about Boots not fighting for a belt yet your boy has had FOUR fights at 154 and has fought ZERO belt holders. I'm sure you are about to justify that dry run with some epic tales about "nobody wanting to fight him" or "everyone was busy" or "he was injured" or some mind bending stuff but one thing you will not escape is Ortiz has spent two years at 154 and has NOT fought for a belt. Is he scared? What's his excuse?
                    Where did I say Bootsy HAS to fight a title holder? I said just fight a damn world class guy. He could fight Madrimov, bohachuk, Tim tzyzu or any of the current title holder not named Abass Baraou. He not going anywhere near anyone BUT baraou though. He has a pattern of this. Again I have to paint to you that Ortiz has over 25% of his opponents on the world class level. Bootsy has ONE “world class” opponent. Less than 3% of his opponents in 35 fights. It’s just crazy to even try to compare this two fighters. You think Bootsy can beat Ortiz cause he smashes BUMS lmao. He couldn’t smash KAREN who had decent footwork watch what the sharks do to this hype job god please give us Bootsy vs bakram/ortiz/fundora please please please lol. I’ll bet you $1000 it’s abass baraou though. And when the fight gets made all the DBs like yourself will make some kind of excuse about how it’s a good fight that’s securing his “legacy” and etc etc etc lol

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by LAchargers373

                      Where did I say Bootsy HAS to fight a title holder? I said just fight a damn world class guy. He could fight Madrimov, bohachuk, Tim tzyzu or any of the current title holder not named Abass Baraou. He not going anywhere near anyone BUT baraou though. He has a pattern of this. Again I have to paint to you that Ortiz has over 25% of his opponents on the world class level. Bootsy has ONE “world class” opponent. Less than 3% of his opponents in 35 fights. It’s just crazy to even try to compare this two fighters. You think Bootsy can beat Ortiz cause he smashes BUMS lmao. He couldn’t smash KAREN who had decent footwork watch what the sharks do to this hype job god please give us Bootsy vs bakram/ortiz/fundora please please please lol. I’ll bet you $1000 it’s abass baraou though. And when the fight gets made all the DBs like yourself will make some kind of excuse about how it’s a good fight that’s securing his “legacy” and etc etc etc lol
                      Even if Baraou is a weak champion, he's a champion, nonetheless. I don't fault Ennis for taking on a weak champ first. Now if after he wins the belt, he holds it hostage and never properly defends it against mandatory challengers, I'll fault him.

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