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  • champion4ever
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    #81
    Originally posted by Smash

    i hear what u are saying

    maybe its just me but i would like to see a guy like bud or anyone in his position take on the 'new guy', i mean boots has been labelled a generational guy for many years & i think beating boots would actually add to buds legacy actually,he would get massive kudos from people like us on this website anyway u would think taking that fight and from people like bread and others who rate boots sky high, they dont rate others in that way so that auto makes boots some type of legacy fight in their eyes at least u would think, even if bud did want the fight im not so sure getting boots to sign up with would that easy either, he seems to have his plan clearly mapped out for himself, or else i could be completely wrong on all fronts
    As a boxing fan it would be great for the sport if those two were to rumble. It would be a crowd pleasing fight. However, from Bud’s perspective. He is looking at the end game.

    This scenario is very reminiscent of Crawford’s calling out Pacquiao in 2016. However, Manny Pacquiao, Freddie Roach and Bob Arum quickly nipped it in the Bud; No pun intended.

    Terence was just coming into his prime at the time and Manny was already past his. They did not believe it would have been wise for Pac to fight Bud at that time.

    By that time Pac had already paid his dues like Crawford has paid his. He didn’t owe Crawford that fight and Crawford doesn’t owe Boot’s one either.
    Last edited by champion4ever; Yesterday, 11:31 AM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by champion4ever

      Terence was just coming into his prime at the time and Manny was already past his. They did not believe it would have been wise for Pac to fight Bud at that time.

      By that time Pac had already paid his dues like Crawford has paid his. He didn’t owe Crawford that fight and Crawford doesn’t owe Boot’s one either.
      true bud would have smacked pac around the place and arum knew it, i think bud smacks boots around the place actually, i dont see boots as being as good as bud even now with buds age i still think he beats boots pretty handy, im always su****ious of guys who dont take the biggest best fights available to them like boots has been doing, its usually for a reason in the end, they are not confident of taking those fights deep down there

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        #83
        Originally posted by BlackRobb

        Even this version of Bud would destroy Boots. The gap in ring IQ is too wide. Also, Bud switches seamlessly, has tremendous reach for his height and can counter just about anything Boots tries. He'd likely stop Boots or win a clear UD. Bozy and Eddie will never pursue that fight, no matter how much yapping they do. Don't be fooled.
        I agree. Bud would be the easy favorite to win as he is the more proven fighter. I cannot think of a single name on Boots’ resume’ he fought who was good. Which is why he needs to fight Vergil Ortiz.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Smash

          true bud would have smacked pac around the place and arum knew it, i think bud smacks boots around the place actually, i dont see boots as being as good as bud even now with buds age i still think he beats boots pretty handy, im always su****ious of guys who dont take the biggest best fights available to them like boots has been doing, its usually for a reason in the end, they are not confident of taking those fights deep down there
          That’s very true. Crawford would be the easy betting favorite against Boots. However, a fight with Jaron doesn’t excite Bud. It’s almost like he is going backwards fighting him. He is not afraid but he is just mentally drained and fatigued at this point of his career. This fight is very appealing to boxing fans but just not to him.

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            #85
            Originally posted by MulaKO

            On paper he does
            He hasn’t proven it against top tier fighters
            His skills aren’t on paper! Tim has seen them, and so has everyone on boxing!

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              #86
              Originally posted by champion4ever
              Also, there is no reason to make this stuff up. Remember that Vergil Ortiz had become Terence "Bud" Crawford's No.1 contender for the WBO's 147 world title long before Jaron "Boots" Ennis and yet he never fought Crawford. I just wonder what was the reason why?
              Could've swore Ortiz was some "gold champ", with the wba or some ****. Dont ever remember him with wbo. Could be wrong tho

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              • MulaKO
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                #87
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                His skills aren’t on paper! Tim has seen them, and so has everyone on boxing!
                Yeah , we all witnessed it when he knocked out the great Lima in 1
                Please refresh my memory , what other greats has he beaten and shown his skills

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Smash
                  ortiz is tough but hes been in close fight where he was dropped and probably should have lost but if someone makes it look easy that a big step up, this is why we like boxing for the intrigue of the matchup, i tend to think this fight is not around the corner as boots has said, I have to take what he and Eddie say with a big pinch of salt, and if you read more, it’s clear that his past opponent choices show that when push came to shove, he often walked the other way. not even sure if ortiz is at the moment up for the fight with his position with the wbc i think, looks like we are in for more and more marination turkii with a big cheque book is the only hope i think
                  Ortiz is tough, but given his past close fights and his current WBC situation, this matchup doesn’t seem imminent. It will likely take a major purse, like from Turkii, to make it happen.
                  Last edited by adamjones; Today, 12:22 AM.

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                  • Oregonian
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by LAchargers373

                    No like madrimov or bohochuk or lubin. Cmon bro it’s not that hard. Madrimov would embarrass bootsy.
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                    So you are ok with Ortiz fighting Dulorme four years after Boots had KO'd him, is what you are saying. Gotcha!

                    You keep repeating things that I actually agree with you on. Boots should have fought those guys. All I am doing is reminding you that when Ortiz moved to 154, he fought a Boot's leftover. That's all.

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by elfag
                      Boots is 28

                      time for less talk about what he COULD do and more talk about getting him in with someone with a pulse

                      theres a lot of names at 154

                      ortiz, Tszyu, fondura, madrimov, any of them we can get a feel for how good Boots is. If boots is really as upset as he claims about missing a huge crawford payday he should be begging to fight Madrimov and show us that he can dispose of a guy easily that gave his rival a hell of a time. But instead he continues to fight bums
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                      "Even Tim who he should beat atleast its a gauge of where boots is at." -- So fighting Tim will give us a gauge of where Boots is at? Boots unified two titles at 147 so we have a gauge of where he's at. Suppose he does fight Tim and destroys him, which is what will happen, will that really give us insights as to where Boots is at?

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