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  • LAchargers373
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    #151
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    Are you going to comment on the 9 month difference in age between Boots and Ortiz? Or do you still want to go with your narrative that Boots is 30 years old? PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS. What you are doing is very typical.

    As for Abass Baraou, I can't disagree with you. It's a trash fight and Boots will probably destroy him in under 5 rounds. Perhaps I should pay you step aside money.

    Let's assume Boots fights Abass and destroys him. Let's assume the trinket gives him leverage to unify with Ortiz or the other two guys, and let's assume those fights happen in 2026 and Boots cleans the division. What else is there to argue about? Will you say Boots has to move to 160 to "prove himself" again?
    *yawn. Your whole argument is based on “if bootsy does this” “if bootsy does that”. Let’s deal in reality. First you said “after stannois any more bumfights and I’ll call it out” but bootsy fight Lima and you say “well Ortiz fought a bum a long time ago too!!!” Now they’re trying to line up Abass baraou and your like “well he’ll destroy him but then what if he _____” lol. Get it? If he does any of that sure I’ll say “hey I was wrong this kid takes on big fights he ain’t ducking” but do YOU truly believe that’s what’s gonna happen? Who cares what I think. You know what I think. Do YOU truly believe that’s Lima to Abass baraou is legit? While bootsy has now called out Ortiz once and ducked the fight via Riyadh and turki. Then after lima fight he called out Ortiz again and bakram and fundora. If he fight baraou are you gonna finally say that’s ridiculous and a complete duck? And even further can tell us if TRULY BELIEVE he’s gonna fight bakram fundora ortiz and unify the division? You realllllllly believe that’s what’s gonna do? Almost 30 never fought anyone in his career but he’ll fight the 3 top rated fighters at 154 all of a sudden? You are delusional if you believe that my friend

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    • Oregonian
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      #152
      Originally posted by LAchargers373

      he won’t destroy him. Does bootsy have the tools to win? Sure he does. He’s talented. Do I think he’s got the heart and grit to win a very tough fight? Hell no. He’s a pretty boy that likes gifted tailor made fights. That’s why he’s almost 30 and has 0 marquee bouts to his name. Reality, It’s a crazy place to live
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      Are you going to comment on the 9 month difference in age between Boots and Ortiz? Or do you still want to go with your narrative that Boots is 30 years old? PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS.

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        #153
        Originally posted by LAchargers373

        *yawn. Your whole argument is based on “if bootsy does this” “if bootsy does that”. Let’s deal in reality. First you said “after stannois any more bumfights and I’ll call it out” but bootsy fight Lima and you say “well Ortiz fought a bum a long time ago too!!!” Now they’re trying to line up Abass baraou and your like “well he’ll destroy him but then what if he _____” lol. Get it? If he does any of that sure I’ll say “hey I was wrong this kid takes on big fights he ain’t ducking” but do YOU truly believe that’s what’s gonna happen? Who cares what I think. You know what I think. Do YOU truly believe that’s Lima to Abass baraou is legit? While bootsy has now called out Ortiz once and ducked the fight via Riyadh and turki. Then after lima fight he called out Ortiz again and bakram and fundora. If he fight baraou are you gonna finally say that’s ridiculous and a complete duck? And even further can tell us if TRULY BELIEVE he’s gonna fight bakram fundora ortiz and unify the division? You realllllllly believe that’s what’s gonna do? Almost 30 never fought anyone in his career but he’ll fight the 3 top rated fighters at 154 all of a sudden? You are delusional if you believe that my friend
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        If you look at my responses to you, you'll find that I've never called you delusional nor ridiculed anything you've written. I've agreed with pretty much everything you've written whilst giving Boots the grace of time since he just moved to 154.

        I've asked you ONE particular question multiple times and I know why you are ignoring it so I'm just going to do EXACTLY what you are doing.

        Your boy Ortiz is 30 years old and has been at 154 Ibs for almost 2 years. These are the guys he fought.
        1. Fredrick Lawson - this virtual unknown had 3 losses when Ortiz cherry-picked him.
        2. Thomas Dulorme - this guy had been KO'd by Boots 4 years earlier.
        3. Bohachuk - Bohachuk BEAT Ortiz and Ortiz got a gift decision.
        4. Madrimov - Madrimov was coming off a loss to Bud and the great Ortiz chose to fight a guy coming off a loss
        5. Lubin - this guy has two losses already and Ortiz is cherry-picking him
        Do you see the pattern of Ortiz? He literally ran away from the WW division AND two years at 154 Ibs and he is cherry-picking his way into a hall of fame career. You can't make this shyte up. How do you support such madness? Ortiz was at WW and NEVER fought for a title. He's been at JMW for 2 years now and has NEVER fought for a title. Soon he will RUN to 160 Ibs to avoid Boots.
        I hope Lubin exposes this hype job so we never hear about him again. Cannot for your excuses when Lubin exposes your boy Ortiz.

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          #154
          Originally posted by Oregonian
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          If you look at my responses to you, you'll find that I've never called you delusional nor ridiculed anything you've written. I've agreed with pretty much everything you've written whilst giving Boots the grace of time since he just moved to 154.

          I've asked you ONE particular question multiple times and I know why you are ignoring it so I'm just going to do EXACTLY what you are doing.

          Your boy Ortiz is 30 years old and has been at 154 Ibs for almost 2 years. These are the guys he fought.
          1. Fredrick Lawson - this virtual unknown had 3 losses when Ortiz cherry-picked him.
          2. Thomas Dulorme - this guy had been KO'd by Boots 4 years earlier.
          3. Bohachuk - Bohachuk BEAT Ortiz and Ortiz got a gift decision.
          4. Madrimov - Madrimov was coming off a loss to Bud and the great Ortiz chose to fight a guy coming off a loss
          5. Lubin - this guy has two losses already and Ortiz is cherry-picking him
          Do you see the pattern of Ortiz? He literally ran away from the WW division AND two years at 154 Ibs and he is cherry-picking his way into a hall of fame career. You can't make this shyte up. How do you support such madness? Ortiz was at WW and NEVER fought for a title. He's been at JMW for 2 years now and has NEVER fought for a title. Soon he will RUN to 160 Ibs to avoid Boots.
          I hope Lubin exposes this hype job so we never hear about him again. Cannot for your excuses when Lubin exposes your boy Ortiz.
          Hahahahaha you’re a delusional bootsy bro lol. The DB”s as we refer to them in the real world. Look man, I’m not the only person that’s seeing what I’m saying. Look at the comments other people are making. Youre mad because Ortiz gets praise for taking on real fights and winning as opposed to the flak bootsy ootsy gets for fighting absolute bums. Almost 30 and ZERO marquee fights. Hes a Temu Demetrius Andrade ROFL

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            #155
            Originally posted by LAchargers373

            Hahahahaha you’re a delusional bootsy bro lol. The DB”s as we refer to them in the real world. Look man, I’m not the only person that’s seeing what I’m saying. Look at the comments other people are making. Youre mad because Ortiz gets praise for taking on real fights and winning as opposed to the flak bootsy ootsy gets for fighting absolute bums. Almost 30 and ZERO marquee fights. Hes a Temu Demetrius Andrade ROFL
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            How does a 30 year old guy who has been pro for 10 years in two weight classes and has NEVER fought for a title?? How do you explain that? 10 years and ZERO titles. You think that's how people get into the HoF or become ATG?
            Bro! Rolly Romero is a WW belt holder and in discussions to fight PAC next. How is Ortiz still cherry picking guys coming off losses or European guys that nobody knows about. And he loses to them anyway.

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              #156
              Originally posted by Oregonian
              -----------------------------[*]Fredrick Lawson - this virtual unknown had 3 losses when Ortiz cherry-picked him.[*]Thomas Dulorme - this guy had been KO'd by Boots 4 years earlier.[*]Bohachuk - Bohachuk BEAT Ortiz and Ortiz got a gift decision.[*]Madrimov - Madrimov was coming off a loss to Bud and the great Ortiz chose to fight a guy coming off a loss[*]Lubin - this guy has two losses already and Ortiz is cherry-picking him
              i think u are going OTT here, the last 3 fights are good fights, madrimov like him or not gave bud a hard fight and it was close so that was a good fight for ortiz to take

              boots is not fighting guys like this at all, actually being the 147 ibf champ he should have just made the fight with the russian 154 ibf champ and taken his belt as the russian is actually going well now so it would be seen as a good win

              boots could easily have fought ortiz teo & bakram now or any of them as all 3 fights were there and easy to make but he never bothered and all he and his fans do is claim the best and put everyone on notice! lol ive seen this type of crap before but fans always fall for it for some reason

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                #157
                Originally posted by Oregonian
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                How does a 30 year old guy who has been pro for 10 years in two weight classes and has NEVER fought for a title?? How do you explain that? 10 years and ZERO titles. You think that's how people get into the HoF or become ATG?
                Bro! Rolly Romero is a WW belt holder and in discussions to fight PAC next. How is Ortiz still cherry picking guys coming off losses or European guys that nobody knows about. And he loses to them anyway.
                He loses to them but hes undefeated ooook lmao. Tell me you’re a DB without saying it hahahaha. You live in a fantasy world bro. You think Ortiz lost to bohachuk and Madrimov that’s wild lmao. And you think bootsy ootsy is a generational all time HOF level fighter. Even though he’s never fought a legitimate opponent. Tell me again ur not delusional bro ROFL. You can’t win this argument with facts. Only with fantasies. Ortiz is 28 and was unable to fight for 2 years due to a life threatening illness. So in fighting activity years he’s actually 3 YEARS younger than bootsy because bootsy is 29. 1 year younger in age then 2 years unable to fight or train fairly recently. And he STILL has 4 more championship level opponents than bootsy bro. You can cry title this title that like it means something but bootsy ootsy was AN EMAIL CHAMP. He then unified against another EMAIL CHAMP(who also has never fought anybody in his career). Meanwhile Ortiz fought the WBC #1 contender for the interim WBC then fought the consensus rank #1 fighter in Madrimov who had just lost his title to bud in a very close debateable decision. I think bud won by a hair but it showed how good Madrimov is and solidified as the #1 ranked non belt holder in the division. As I said this is a consensus viewpoint not just my own. Now too bootsy he fought Karen again and lost a few rounds and didn’t look impressive. Called out Ortiz got biggest offer of his career and DUCKED. Then he fought stannois(email champ) who has never fought anybody and was tailor made for him and won impressively as expected. Then said AGAIN he wanted “all the top dogs at 54” but instead of petitioning to fight bakram for IBF which everyone expected (you know cause he’s 29 never fought anybody always calling people out) but instead fought the little know Lima. Who if you look at his record, has been punching out Indian cab drivers to padd it lmao. Now after calling out everyone AGAIN it looks like bootsy ootsy is going to fight the great Abass baraou. He could call up bakram RIGHT NOW and get that fight but nope Eddie prefers Abass baraou ROFL. So grow up. I get it you believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus but we all have to grow up. Stop believing in fairy tales and start living in reality lmao, I assume your a grown man

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Smash

                  i think u are going OTT here, the last 3 fights are good fights, madrimov like him or not gave bud a hard fight and it was close so that was a good fight for ortiz to take

                  boots is not fighting guys like this at all, actually being the 147 ibf champ he should have just made the fight with the russian 154 ibf champ and taken his belt as the russian is actually going well now so it would be seen as a good win

                  boots could easily have fought ortiz teo & bakram now or any of them as all 3 fights were there and easy to make but he never bothered and all he and his fans do is claim the best and put everyone on notice! lol ive seen this type of crap before but fans always fall for it for some reason
                  Finally someone who lives in reality. Thank you for pointing out the obvious. You know your stuff

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    How does a 30 year old guy who has been pro for 10 years in two weight classes and has NEVER fought for a title?? How do you explain that? 10 years and ZERO titles. You think that's how people get into the HoF or become ATG?
                    Bro! Rolly Romero is a WW belt holder and in discussions to fight PAC next. How is Ortiz still cherry picking guys coming off losses or European guys that nobody knows about. And he loses to them anyway.
                    The fact you think titles matter at this day and age shows how delusional u are.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by LAchargers373

                      He loses to them but hes undefeated ooook lmao. Tell me you’re a DB without saying it hahahaha. You live in a fantasy world bro. You think Ortiz lost to bohachuk and Madrimov that’s wild lmao. And you think bootsy ootsy is a generational all time HOF level fighter. Even though he’s never fought a legitimate opponent. Tell me again ur not delusional bro ROFL. You can’t win this argument with facts. Only with fantasies. Ortiz is 28 and was unable to fight for 2 years due to a life threatening illness. So in fighting activity years he’s actually 3 YEARS younger than bootsy because bootsy is 29. 1 year younger in age then 2 years unable to fight or train fairly recently. And he STILL has 4 more championship level opponents than bootsy bro. You can cry title this title that like it means something but bootsy ootsy was AN EMAIL CHAMP. He then unified against another EMAIL CHAMP(who also has never fought anybody in his career). Meanwhile Ortiz fought the WBC #1 contender for the interim WBC then fought the consensus rank #1 fighter in Madrimov who had just lost his title to bud in a very close debateable decision. I think bud won by a hair but it showed how good Madrimov is and solidified as the #1 ranked non belt holder in the division. As I said this is a consensus viewpoint not just my own. Now too bootsy he fought Karen again and lost a few rounds and didn’t look impressive. Called out Ortiz got biggest offer of his career and DUCKED. Then he fought stannois(email champ) who has never fought anybody and was tailor made for him and won impressively as expected. Then said AGAIN he wanted “all the top dogs at 54” but instead of petitioning to fight bakram for IBF which everyone expected (you know cause he’s 29 never fought anybody always calling people out) but instead fought the little know Lima. Who if you look at his record, has been punching out Indian cab drivers to padd it lmao. Now after calling out everyone AGAIN it looks like bootsy ootsy is going to fight the great Abass baraou. He could call up bakram RIGHT NOW and get that fight but nope Eddie prefers Abass baraou ROFL. So grow up. I get it you believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus but we all have to grow up. Stop believing in fairy tales and start living in reality lmao, I assume your a grown man
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                      This is all fine and dandy however, Ortiz is 30 years old and has been a pro for over 10 years AND has NEVER fought for a title. NOT at WW and now he's just cruising at 154. A 30 year old prospect with ZERO title fights. That's gotta be a first in history. He could fight any of the title holders but he's fighting Lubin instead.

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