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  • Oregonian
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    #71
    Originally posted by LAchargers373

    Bro Bootsy gotta earn that fight. He already ducked it once after calling Ortiz out. Ortiz went out and fought Madrimov and lubin since. Those are REAL FIGHTS. Bootsy since his first call out of Ortiz has: ducked Ortiz, fought email champ stannois, and bum Lima. If you can’t pick up the difference in the level of competition each fighter is facing then I can’t continue having a boxing conversation with you. You seem to think stannois and Lima are on the same level of class as Madrimov and lubin. That’s just a WILD take. Do you it realize how unusual it is for a unified champion to fight a BUM moving up instead of petitioning for a title shot? It’s so weird to see people excusing this and saying “oh he needed a tuneup” blah blah likeeee. Your logic is to say “Ortiz’s first fight at 154 was Lawson ” but that’s not reallly valid cause Ortiz coming off life threatening illness and hadn’t fought in 2 years. It’s just so strange that Bootsy fans don’t want to see him fight literally anyone lol. Ortiz fighting killers one after another. Everyone in boxing sees it EXCEPT Bootsy jock riders lol
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    There are three other belt holders that Boots will fight if Ortiz elects not to fight him. At no point in any of my posts here have I stated Stanionis or Lima are on the same level as Madrimov or Lubin. So let me be clear, Lima was a joke of a fight and Boots should have never fought him. Stanionis was a unification at WW and there were plenty of people here that said it would be Boots toughest fight. It was not. Roman Villa when he was undefeated, some said he would be Boots biggest challenge. It was not.

    When Floyd moved up to 147, he fought Zab who had just lost to Baldomir. Would you call that " ... unusual it is for a unified champion to fight a BUM moving up instead of petitioning for a title shot?". That fight gave Floyd his first title at 147. I never said Boots needs a tune up. I agree with you, he does not.

    Two things will happen between now and December of 2026; either Boots will unify two or three belts or he will be exposed as cherry-picking clown who ducked everyone he could have fought. I will wait before I call him any names.

    Also, you seem to think I dislike Ortiz. I don't and I have never called him a bum.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Oregonian
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      Boots just moved up to 154 after unifying at 147. Whatever game they are playing will come to light in their next fight. I am going to be fair to Boots just like I was fair to Ortiz when Ortiz fought Dulorme at 154.
      I've never called Ortiz a bum, just FYI.
      Let me ask you something , who has the better resume
      How many guys has Boots fought that even come close to defeating him ?
      If he is what you all claim him to be , why is such big favourite against his opponents?
      Now surely you know that bookies are not in the business to lose money , right ?
      Nothing adds up , he’s chasing money not legacy
      I say that because talent wise you’d have to be a fool not to recognize it but he’s stuck in third gear and is enjoying the ride
      He keeps calling out fighters when scheduled to fight already
      Look at the route he’s been on and I can name at least five Delorme’s if not more on his resume
      He's gone back and forth with average fighters and never took the plunge , imo making him very vulnerable because no one has pushed his buttons and thus the competition he fights
      And Ortiz has built his name and wasn’t billed to be the big star that Boots is , right ?
      And he still has the better resume but it doesn’t mean he beats Boots
      I think he’ll be the guy that pounds Boots for the first few rounds and puts him in position to show if he can dig deep to beat Ortiz , my point being Hes gonna have to dig deep because he’s fought weak opposition and never gradually shifted the gears to get to fifth

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        #73
        Originally posted by Oregonian
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        There are three other belt holders that Boots will fight if Ortiz elects not to fight him. At no point in any of my posts here have I stated Stanionis or Lima are on the same level as Madrimov or Lubin. So let me be clear, Lima was a joke of a fight and Boots should have never fought him. Stanionis was a unification at WW and there were plenty of people here that said it would be Boots toughest fight. It was not. Roman Villa when he was undefeated, some said he would be Boots biggest challenge. It was not.

        When Floyd moved up to 147, he fought Zab who had just lost to Baldomir. Would you call that " ... unusual it is for a unified champion to fight a BUM moving up instead of petitioning for a title shot?". That fight gave Floyd his first title at 147. I never said Boots needs a tune up. I agree with you, he does not.

        Two things will happen between now and December of 2026; either Boots will unify two or three belts or he will be exposed as cherry-picking clown who ducked everyone he could have fought. I will wait before I call him any names.

        Also, you seem to think I dislike Ortiz. I don't and I have never called him a bum.
        Just wanted to add that I never accused you of name calling or anything else for that matter
        Your a fan of his and that’s the bottom line
        When you cheer for someone it kind f@cks your vision , the close rounds you’ll give to your guy
        Not you but every human has the same tendencies and we’ve been blinded a fighter
        Take for example AJ in the UK , his only good fight was Klitchko in all reality and once they fought , AJ has played the same yo-yo as Boots is doing and got found out by small stocky fighter
        Another that comes to mind is Itauma who just refused fights with Sanchez and lied about Zhang not signing the contract
        If he’s supposedly the next Tyson , at this point he should be fighting an Anderson and then take a bigger step ( Frank Sanchez is easily beatable bu the way and a good stepping stone at this point )
        Tells me these guys are hiding something from us and certainly not ready just like Boots has not been prepared properly
        He might win but he will encounter problems along the way

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          #74
          Originally posted by MulaKO

          Let me ask you something , who has the better resume
          How many guys has Boots fought that even come close to defeating him ?
          If he is what you all claim him to be , why is such big favourite against his opponents?
          Now surely you know that bookies are not in the business to lose money , right ?
          Nothing adds up , he’s chasing money not legacy
          I say that because talent wise you’d have to be a fool not to recognize it but he’s stuck in third gear and is enjoying the ride
          He keeps calling out fighters when scheduled to fight already
          Look at the route he’s been on and I can name at least five Delorme’s if not more on his resume
          He's gone back and forth with average fighters and never took the plunge , imo making him very vulnerable because no one has pushed his buttons and thus the competition he fights
          And Ortiz has built his name and wasn’t billed to be the big star that Boots is , right ?
          And he still has the better resume but it doesn’t mean he beats Boots
          I think he’ll be the guy that pounds Boots for the first few rounds and puts him in position to show if he can dig deep to beat Ortiz , my point being Hes gonna have to dig deep because he’s fought weak opposition and never gradually shifted the gears to get to fifth
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          I cannot disagree with a single thing you wrote. Ortiz has the better resume thus far based on opponents faced. Boots is 35-0 which is a really high number when you consider that Andre Ward retired at 32-0.

          When Bud and Spence were the belt holders, Boots was lurking around and I think he should have fought one of them or both of them. Boxers and their teams know who is who in boxing so someone def ducked the other and Boots was a serious risk with very low rewards for either Bud or Spence. I'm not saying they ducked him. After those two fought, all the belts opened up and Boots unified two. I wish he unified the whole division but it would have been the weakest WW belt holders.

          Breadman is telling us Boots vs Ortiz is next IF Ortiz gets past Lubin. If that is true then I cannot wait for that fight. Here's the part where I find interesting - if Boots beats Ortiz, it will not damage Ortiz's career or reputation BUT if Ortiz beats Boots, it will be the end of Boots career.

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            #75
            Originally posted by MulaKO

            Just wanted to add that I never accused you of name calling or anything else for that matter
            Your a fan of his and that’s the bottom line
            When you cheer for someone it kind f@cks your vision , the close rounds you’ll give to your guy
            Not you but every human has the same tendencies and we’ve been blinded a fighter
            Take for example AJ in the UK , his only good fight was Klitchko in all reality and once they fought , AJ has played the same yo-yo as Boots is doing and got found out by small stocky fighter
            Another that comes to mind is Itauma who just refused fights with Sanchez and lied about Zhang not signing the contract
            If he’s supposedly the next Tyson , at this point he should be fighting an Anderson and then take a bigger step ( Frank Sanchez is easily beatable bu the way and a good stepping stone at this point )
            Tells me these guys are hiding something from us and certainly not ready just like Boots has not been prepared properly
            He might win but he will encounter problems along the way
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            Once again, I do not disagree at all with you. I was thinking Itauma is too young but Ali was 22 when he challenged Liston and Tyson was 20 when he became the HW champion. Itauma is flabby for a 20 year old and that is never a good sign. I think he gets stopped by Usyk and perhaps even AJ.

            I am a fan of Boots and very influenced by Breadman. I can admit that. I was also a big Canelo fan. The only time I've rooted against Canelo is when he fought Floyd, GGG, Bivol and Bud because of the obvious ducks. I used to be a fan of Tank Davis too and now I hope he gets beat by anyone he fights. Boots vs Ortiz might be next in line so let's wait for that.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Oregonian
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              There are three other belt holders that Boots will fight if Ortiz elects not to fight him. At no point in any of my posts here have I stated Stanionis or Lima are on the same level as Madrimov or Lubin. So let me be clear, Lima was a joke of a fight and Boots should have never fought him. Stanionis was a unification at WW and there were plenty of people here that said it would be Boots toughest fight. It was not. Roman Villa when he was undefeated, some said he would be Boots biggest challenge. It was not.

              When Floyd moved up to 147, he fought Zab who had just lost to Baldomir. Would you call that " ... unusual it is for a unified champion to fight a BUM moving up instead of petitioning for a title shot?". That fight gave Floyd his first title at 147. I never said Boots needs a tune up. I agree with you, he does not.

              Two things will happen between now and December of 2026; either Boots will unify two or three belts or he will be exposed as cherry-picking clown who ducked everyone he could have fought. I will wait before I call him any names.

              Also, you seem to think I dislike Ortiz. I don't and I have never called him a bum.
              Zab was a former champion and Floyd had fought tons of other multiple elite fighters before cherry picking zab. Stop trying to compare Bootsy to Floyd that’s even more ridiculous. You literally are so far from reality I can’t even reason logic with you lol

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                #77
                Originally posted by Oregonian
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                I cannot disagree with a single thing you wrote. Ortiz has the better resume thus far based on opponents faced. Boots is 35-0 which is a really high number when you consider that Andre Ward retired at 32-0.

                When Bud and Spence were the belt holders, Boots was lurking around and I think he should have fought one of them or both of them. Boxers and their teams know who is who in boxing so someone def ducked the other and Boots was a serious risk with very low rewards for either Bud or Spence. I'm not saying they ducked him. After those two fought, all the belts opened up and Boots unified two. I wish he unified the whole division but it would have been the weakest WW belt holders.

                Breadman is telling us Boots vs Ortiz is next IF Ortiz gets past Lubin. If that is true then I cannot wait for that fight. Here's the part where I find interesting - if Boots beats Ortiz, it will not damage Ortiz's career or reputation BUT if Ortiz beats Boots, it will be the end of Boots career.
                I would have had more respect for Bootsif he DID unify all four belts
                Whether you think its the weakest unification or not , it still would of been an accomplishment and plus to gradually getting to the top
                Say what you will about Bud , but he beat everyone put in front of him and now fought Canelo , although a washed one , I cannot see him avoiding Boots
                Breadman is just enchanted by Boots in every aspect thus making him blind to the faults of the fighter , he’s claimed many things

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                  #78
                  Almost 40-0 and no signature win. Not one good win.

                  Wilder tier career so far

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    Once again, I do not disagree at all with you. I was thinking Itauma is too young but Ali was 22 when he challenged Liston and Tyson was 20 when he became the HW champion. Itauma is flabby for a 20 year old and that is never a good sign. I think he gets stopped by Usyk and perhaps even AJ.

                    I am a fan of Boots and very influenced by Breadman. I can admit that. I was also a big Canelo fan. The only time I've rooted against Canelo is when he fought Floyd, GGG, Bivol and Bud because of the obvious ducks. I used to be a fan of Tank Davis too and now I hope he gets beat by anyone he fights. Boots vs Ortiz might be next in line so let's wait for that.
                    The fact that you say if Boots loses he’s done , only points to my reasoning
                    A skilled fighter like Boots shouldn’t be counted out after a loss but he will be for the 32 Lima’s he’s fought
                    The writing is on the wall , how you’ve prepared is what counts but losing to the first real fighter you fight can be detrimental
                    All I’m going to say is it didn’t have to be this way , sometimes you play to safe and sh/t gets by you , life’s short

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                      #80
                      Wow! Great win for Ennis!

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