Crawford didn’t dominate Canelo like people are saying

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  • ImDominicanLipz
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    #11
    Originally posted by dannnnn
    I agree (except about the size part).

    I understand why though, people were caught up in the excitement of the moment, and Crawford winning the fight IS a huge moment in and of itself regardless of how close or wide it was. But yeah, people went overboard talking about domination. I didn't score it exactly but I know I had it way closer than the official scorer for the broadcast, Skipper Kelp, who gave Crawford something like the first five or six rounds, which is obscene IMO. I saw the early rounds more as Crawford easing himself in and finding his footing in the fight, while for the most part the only punches thrown with much intent behind them were from Canelo.

    I also felt like towards the end of the fight Max Kellerman was doing his best to gaslight us into believing it had been a pretty one-sided win for Crawford and that anything less on the scorecards would have been a travesty. I don't know, honestly the 115-113 cards sounded right to me. The fact that Crawford finished the fight on top with some of his best moments of the fight didn't hurt his cause either, because it's the final lasting impression.
    You don't agree Crawford was a little bigger? Look at them in the ring. Bud's body looks thicker than Canelo's. But I 100% agree about the best moments being at the end of the fight helping his case big time. Canelo was throwing 1 punch at a time and Bud was throwing flurries. Didnt matter if all of them landed, it was the perception that he was doing more and limiting what Canelo could do.

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    • ImDominicanLipz
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      Ok fair point. If he had a couple of knockdowns he could’ve evened it up.

      It didn’t appear that he was fighting in a way to advise that. He seemed to be just looking to land a huge shot because he was frustrated he was getting outboxed.

      He was down 6-1 and then 7-1. At 7-1 I’m thinking he needs a ko to win.
      No, I mean u said Canelo needed a KO going into the 7th. That would mean u had Bud winning the first 6 rounds, but he had 0 knockdowns on Canelo so you didn't even give Canelo a chance to make it a draw. But, saying Bud won 6 of the first 7 is crazy imo.

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        #13
        Originally posted by ImDominicanLipz

        No, I mean u said Canelo needed a KO going into the 7th. That would mean u had Bud winning the first 6 rounds, but he had 0 knockdowns on Canelo so you didn't even give Canelo a chance to make it a draw. But, saying Bud won 6 of the first 7 is crazy imo.
        Yes I felt that way. He was down 5-1.’He looked befuddled as Crawford kept moving forward and getting closer.

        I thought the look on both boxer’s faces showed this.

        At best you could give Canelo 2 but that is being extremely generous imo.

        I thought it was clear from round 3 on he was in with a far superior boxer, same as it looked with Floyd and Bivol.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 10-08-2025, 10:21 AM.

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        • ImDominicanLipz
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          #14
          Originally posted by Joseph
          I didn't think it was a domination either but it was a clear (not close and not wide) victory for Crawford.

          Canelo, while not shot to pieces, is really starting to teeter on the brink, and Crawford is a once a year fighter, if that.

          Frankly, both are old and past their sell-by date and I wish they'd both just go away so we can focus on the younger, fresher, upcoming lot.
          Well, let's be fair. These are 2 guys that put their life into boxing and has to grind from the bottom to get where they are. I feel like the vets deserve to get some career high paydays before they cash out for what they've dedicated to the sport. Bud probably won't get another one like this unless he fights an exhibition. Canelo could still fight Benavidez for a big pay but I highly highly doubt that happens.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ImDominicanLipz

            Well, let's be fair. These are 2 guys that put their life into boxing and has to grind from the bottom to get where they are. I feel like the vets deserve to get some career high paydays before they cash out for what they've dedicated to the sport. Bud probably won't get another one like this unless he fights an exhibition. Canelo could still fight Benavidez for a big pay but I highly highly doubt that happens.
            Sure, but I don't really care about their finances either way, especially Canelo who has more money now than the next five to ten generations of my family will ever have.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Joseph

              Sure, but I don't really care about their finances either way, especially Canelo who has more money now than the next five to ten generations of my family will ever have.
              I was thinking exactly the same thing but couldn't be bothered to write it out. Across the divisions there are better, legit TBRB top ten fighters missing out on paydays. Keith Thurman, for example, is getting a shot at TBRB #1 Fundora when he's fought once in the division and twice overall in the six years since he lost to Pacquiao. And that's the hottest division in the sport.

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                #17
                Clear Bud victory and once he adjusted more Canelo had no answer.

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                  #18
                  After a few rounds it didn't look like canelo had any chance to win. I get that a lot of boxing media over stated how much Crawford won by saying thinks like beat down domination beat canelo up ECT

                  The casuals at work thought it was boring

                  I picked wrong, I didn't think Crawford could fight a distance control type fight the whole night at 38 as that's never been his style but he made it look easy and with the 3 losses all from the same main reason that is proven canelos kryptonite

                  Even GGG who you could say also beat canelo didn't do as well because he prefers to get in close and look for exchanges and that at least gives canelo his chances for counters

                  Crawford had a clear win, and he did a good job keeping things in spurts to reduce risk. He even won a lot of segments of inside fighting just to demonstrate he could beat canelo there too but staying there too long is higher risk, staying outside gave cement feet no real chance
                  Last edited by elfag; 10-08-2025, 10:47 AM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by elfag
                    After a few rounds it didn't look like canelo had any chance to win. I get that a lot of boxing media over stated how much Crawford won by saying thinks like beat down domination beat canelo up ECT

                    The casuals at work thought it was boring

                    I picked wrong, I didn't think Crawford could fight a distance control type fight the whole night at 28 as that's never been his style but he made it look easy and with the 3 losses all from the same main reason that is proven canelos kryptonite

                    Even GGG who you could say also beat canelo didn't do as well because he prefers to get in close and look for exchanges and that at least gives canelo his chances for counters
                    The surprise for me, and why I expected him to lose, is that I didn't expect Crawford to have sufficient power to keep Canelo honest. I'm not saying he hurt Canelo but there was enough sting that Canelo wasn't prepared to just walk through the shots.

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                    • ImDominicanLipz
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Coverdale

                      I was thinking exactly the same thing but couldn't be bothered to write it out. Across the divisions there are better, legit TBRB top ten fighters missing out on paydays. Keith Thurman, for example, is getting a shot at TBRB #1 Fundora when he's fought once in the division and twice overall in the six years since he lost to Pacquiao. And that's the hottest division in the sport.
                      For them to get those paydays, they need to put in the work and make proper business decisions. Just because they're in the top 10 doesn't mean they deserve a big payday.

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