Should Usyk clean out Bridgerweight to become 3x undisputed like Bud?

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  • SouthpawRight
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    #11
    Originally posted by HisExcellency

    100% although people will moan he was too green just like when Mayweather played with Canelo like food.
    Moses eye test impresses me more so than Saul did

    and Floyd is levels better than the ukrainian cossack

    if Moses wins, I will not be the only person calling him BIBLICAL Moses

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    • HisExcellency
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      #12
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight
      Moses eye test impresses me more so than Saul did

      and Floyd is levels better than the ukrainian cossack

      if Moses wins, I will not be the only person calling him BIBLICAL Moses
      Usyk and Floyd are equivalent talents...in fact, I'd probably lean more towards the Ukrainian as he's taken more risks and beaten opposition in their PRIME. As for Itauma, he certainly looks the part but hasn't fought anybody yet. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk makes him look like a deer in the headlights either (like Floyd-Canelo).

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        #13
        Lil Buff Guy Miniature Malteser Magician Mayweather - thoughts?

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          #14
          Can anyone even name one fighter thats fighting at bridgerweight?

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            #15
            Originally posted by Southpawology
            Can anyone even name one fighter thats fighting at bridgerweight?
            There's a skilled Dagestani who's a former 2x World & European Gold medallist (Musl1m Gadzhimagomedov) who holds the WBA title. Okolie was champ but recently left to go up to Heavyweight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by HisExcellency
              Originally posted by HisExcellency

              Usyk and Floyd are equivalent talents...in fact, I'd probably lean more towards the Ukrainian as he's taken more risks and beaten opposition in their PRIME. As for Itauma, he certainly looks the part but hasn't fought anybody yet. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk makes him look like a deer in the headlights either (like Floyd-Canelo).
              Lil Buff Guy Miniature Malteser Magician Mayweather - thoughts?
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              Despite being levels behind him old Chisora was a handful for Usyk

              One could argue Usyk is the most natural talent the boxing world has ever had

              Usyk started boxing at 15 which is kind of late

              Floyd Top Soviet Bivol Buff Guy Artur manny damn near every all time started in single digit ages

              Floyd a strange guy bouncing between being ultra polite to an absolute d1kc lol

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                #17
                Originally posted by HisExcellency

                Postol was a good win but Matthysse was at the end of his career and had a few losses when they fought. Bridgerweight definitely is the weakest division in boxing right now but there have been a few 'decent' champions like Okolie and that Dagestani with an elite amateur background. Also, who knows, the weight class might explode in the near future and become more glamourous.

                I have Crawford as the current p4p #1 but Usyk's defeat of a PRIME Fury (twice) was more impressive (especially since Canelo is at the end of his career too) whereas beating prime Gassiev & Breidis combined in on PAR par with beating Spence (post life-changing car crash).
                Why discredit a fighter to prop another? They both have very impressive wins. You say Canelo is towards the end, but believe that 36yr old Fury who has been boxing since 2008 was prime. Neither was prime, but still very great wins. Crawford also has fought and been champion in 5 divisions, so I don't believe it is just 3x undisputed separating.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DeryckAtlanta

                  Why discredit a fighter to prop another? They both have very impressive wins. You say Canelo is towards the end, but believe that 36yr old Fury who has been boxing since 2008 was prime. Neither was prime, but still very great wins. Crawford also has fought and been champion in 5 divisions, so I don't believe it is just 3x undisputed separating.
                  Beating Canelo was indeed a GREAT win but not as impressive as beating Fury (twice) because Tyson was undefeated at the time whereas Canelo had already lost a couple and had almost DOUBLE the number of pro fights. Therefore, Fury was in his prime and the fresher fighter.

                  As for the weight classes, Crawford started his career as the much smaller man so was able to conquer MORE weight divisions (like Pacquiao) whereas Usyk is the naturally bigger guy so could only really move up to Heavyweight.

                  Still, I take nothing away from Crawford as becoming 3x undisputed is a history-making achievement. However, this ISN'T the only thing that differentiates him from the other elite fighter's. The fact that he's the only genuine switch hitter who's equally good in both stances and actually beat both Spence & Canelo fighting southpaw (when he normally fights orthodox) is mind blowing.
                  Last edited by HisExcellency; 09-27-2025, 03:23 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
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                    Despite being levels behind him old Chisora was a handful for Usyk

                    One could argue Usyk is the most natural talent the boxing world has ever had

                    Usyk started boxing at 15 which is kind of late

                    Floyd Top Soviet Bivol Buff Guy Artur manny damn near every all time started in single digit ages

                    Floyd a strange guy bouncing between being ultra polite to an absolute d1kc lol
                    That was his first fight at Heavyweight and I genuinely believe he underperformed to lure Joshua into fighting him and taking his belts.

                    Didn't realise he started boxing so late...that makes all of his accomplishments even MORE impressive.

                    As for Mayweather, I wish he'd showcase his intelligent side more instead of being an asshole but he prefers talking shit just to stay in the limelight

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by HisExcellency

                      Beating Canelo was indeed a GREAT win but not as impressive as beating Fury (twice) because Tyson was undefeated at the time whereas Canelo had already lost a couple and had almost DOUBLE the number of pro fights. Therefore, Fury was in his prime and the fresher fighter.

                      As for the weight classes, Crawford started his career as the much smaller man so was able to conquer MORE weight divisions (like Pacquiao) whereas Usyk is the naturally bigger guy so could only really move up to Heavyweight.

                      Still, I take nothing away from Crawford as becoming 3x undisputed is a history-making achievement. However, this ISN'T the only thing that differentiates him from the other elite fighter's. The fact that he's the only genuine switch hitter who's equally good in both stances and actually beat both Spence & Canelo fighting southpaw (when he normally fights orthodox) is mind blowing.
                      I can agree to disagree on Fury's prime and I was also very impressed with Usyk's win over him. IMO Canelo, even with losses, is a better/greater fighter than Fury before and now. The best single win between the two of them is Crawford's. I can see how two wins over a top fighter is better than one. Skill for skill, I don't have anybody currently above Crawford, which is why I have him PFP #1 after a great win. For the record, I have personally had them flip flopping for the last 2 years with Inoue even jumping in briefly after the Fulton domination. He was unlucky that the Spence fight happened later that week.

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