Is Crawford the epitome of a boxing champion? Floyd's reign suddenly became a bit funny in comparison

[The Big Dunn]

It makes sense. I was comparing excitement. The part where he had big gates and filled arenas were large in part due to his dance partner. He always had a big star on the opposite side of him because he wouldn't do it alone... as evident by the Baldomir fight.

Excitement, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

Stop it dude. Your argument holds no water because none of these dance partners approached the same numbers without Floyd. Meanwhile, Floyd continued to eclipse his numbers until the end.

I see you cherrypicked the Floyd v Baldomir fight, held before he fought ODH. That fight sold 325k ppvs. About the same as Manny v Morales and Manny v JMM 1.

The numbers don’t lie dude.

[hugh grant]

Long as the experts and writers rank Floyd ahead of manny I could care less what you and the legion of ball gurgling stans think.


The reason Floyd is ranked above him because he beat better opposition and beat Manny.

Manny is never passing him so I have absolutely nothing to worry about. That race is over and done.

The only one passed over was Manny, by Crawford with his win over Canelo.

yeh, sure, so called experts that you talk about rank floyd above Pac as he is unbeaten (when most, including Floyd thinks hes lost at least 4 times) and has a hometown win over Pac whilst 2 years older? And beating common opponents less convincing than Pac and common opponents say Pac was tougher opponent to boot. Doing everything less than Pac makes floyd greater?
yes, continue to be worried.

[ELPacman]

Excitement, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

Stop it dude. Your argument holds no water because none of these dance partners approached the same numbers without Floyd. Meanwhile, Floyd continued to eclipse his numbers until the end.

I see you cherrypicked the Floyd v Baldomir fight, held before he fought ODH. That fight sold 325k ppvs. About the same as Manny v Morales and Manny v JMM 1.

The numbers don’t lie dude.

Yeah, so this is where we'll never agree. I know Floyd has his fans and they love him from a boxing purist/defense standpoint. That's fine. I'm not one of those and never will be. I still believe the dance partners for Floyd were necessarily, though Floyd built up enough of a fanbase mostly because they wanted to see him lose. There was that aspect and then his opponents who brought there larger fanbase. Yes, Floyd's numbers continued to go up because he continued to pick the bigger names of the sport. Additionally, he grew a larger base that wanted to see him lose in the process due to his ahole personality, lol.

Manny vs Morales was a solid buy rate for two non-american fighters going at it. Manny-JMM 1 wasn't PPV from what I recall.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah, so this is where we'll never agree. I know Floyd has his fans and they love him from a boxing purist/defense standpoint. That's fine. I'm not one of those and never will be. I still believe the dance partners for Floyd were necessarily, though Floyd built up enough of a fanbase mostly because they wanted to see him lose. There was that aspect and then his opponents who brought there larger fanbase. Yes, Floyd's numbers continued to go up because he continued to pick the bigger names of the sport. Additionally, he grew a larger base that wanted to see him lose in the process due to his ahole personality, lol.

Manny vs Morales was a solid buy rate for two non-american fighters going at it. Manny-JMM 1 wasn't PPV from what I recall.

That is fine. My point is the volume of fans that pay the amount of money they did clearly thought he was exciting.

That is another point that makes little sense. On the one hand you guys argue he cherrypicked only easy fights he was sure to win. Yet you also claim fans watched these fights to see him lose. Doesnt equate, which you know.

If they had larger fanbases, why didn’t they do big numbers?

Stop it dude. That buy to see him lose is phony,

So 2 ATG did as much as Baldomir. Shows you’re undervaluing how many fans Floyd has.

[The Big Dunn]

yeh, sure, so called experts that you talk about rank floyd above Pac as he is unbeaten (when most, including Floyd thinks hes lost at least 4 times) and has a hometown win over Pac whilst 2 years older? And beating common opponents less convincing than Pac and common opponents say Pac was tougher opponent to boot. Doing everything less than Pac makes floyd greater?
yes, continue to be worried.

They didn’t tell you that so stop speculating. Show something that indicates this.

One or two, not all. Floyd has won more belts as shown in this thread.

[djtmal]

That is fine. My point is the volume of fans that pay the amount of money they did clearly thought he was exciting.

That is another point that makes little sense. On the one hand you guys argue he cherrypicked only easy fights he was sure to win. Yet you also claim fans watched these fights to see him lose. Doesnt equate, which you know.

If they had larger fanbases, why didn’t they do big numbers?

Stop it dude. That buy to see him lose is phony,

So 2 ATG did as much as Baldomir. Shows you’re undervaluing how many fans Floyd has.

What is this guy talking about

Take away the Money Mayweather schtick and his career mirrors fighters like Bernard Hopkins

Nobody cared about Floyd prior to Oscar

[djtmal]

lol if so called experts rank floyd above pac for same reasons stans like you do, ie floyd is unbeaten and has a win over pac in Vegas whilst 2 years older, then pac has nothing to worry about, and stans like you have everything to worry about. You do come across as something is bothering you very much

Lol. Ask him to name all of these so called experts

Yeah um Stephen A Smith

[The Big Dunn]

What is this guy talking about

Take away the Money Mayweather schtick and his career mirrors fighters like Bernard Hopkins

Nobody cared about Floyd prior to Oscar

Yes, Floyd worked his way up from the bottom. Fighting progressively tougher opponents in smaller venues. That is how it should be done.

He finally got the ODH opportunity and sold the fight on 24/7 in such a way it made it a staple for all future fights.

winning the fight catapulted him to the top cash cow in the sport.

So his career mirrors another first ballot HOFer that worked his way up from the bottom until he finally got an ODH fight.

Oh how terrible.

Man you ball gurgling Manny stans hate that Floyd worked his way to the top.

[djtmal]

I see you cherrypicked the Floyd v Baldomir fight, held before he fought ODH. That fight sold 325k ppvs.

The numbers don’t lie dude.

Fifty bucks says 225k of those patrons turned the TV off or changed the channel by the 6th round

[The Big Dunn]

Fifty bucks says 225k of those patrons turned the TV off or changed the channel by the 6th round

Hate all you want loser ball gurgling Stan.

Floyd did as much with Baldomir as Morales did with Manny and Manny did with JMM the first time.

Numbers don’t lie.