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  • A.B Counterhooks
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    #11
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

    Crawford will be 38 in 3 days. He might be able to outbox old man Lara, but Adames will present a little difficulty, and Alimkhanuluy will present a great deal of it. Bud would be better served to rematch Canelo for a boat load of money, then retire.
    Call me crazy bro but I do believe old ass Lara present bigger challenge than both Adames and Janibek who are imo a bit overrated. Reason? Lara is experienced af at world championship level, also a southpaw with a tricky cuban boxing style. We'll see who Bud takes on first.

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    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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      #12
      It honestly depends on preference.

      For me Crawford reached a higher level of greatness in regard to individual accomplishments. I think his win over Canelo is better than any individual Mayweather victory. Also becoming Undisputed Champion in three separate weight classes is a more impressive accomplishment than any singular Mayweather accomplishment.

      However, Mayweather reached higher levels of greatness far more consistently. His 10th best win is probably as good as Crawford’s 3rd best win. He definitely has the far deeper resume, including a lot of HOF’ers. He was at the top of the mountain for far longer.

      In terms of head to head, I would pick Crawford, I just think he has more tools, I kind of view it through the same lens as Leonard-Mayweather. Both are great technicians but Bud is easily the better offensive fighter, I think he’s a lot physically stronger too. But again completely subjective, if you think Floyd outboxes him, it’s also a perfectly logical outcome.

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      • factsarenice
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        #13
        Honestly I never seen anyone putting so little stock into belts until PrettyBoy turned MoneyMay and the media started kissing his ass just to get access.

        Floyd rebranded himself " best to ever lace-up the gloves" fighting 100% hand picked, past there primer names and no hopes while avoiding prime fighters that earned their belts. In reality, Floyd HIRED his opponents.

        Carlos Baldomir may have been Floyd's greatest achievement at Welterweight, and the closest he would get to matching Terrance Crawford's unified achievements. Sure, Floyd talked about his greatness and who he didn't need to fight all while cherry picking his way to 50-0 because it was never about being great and just about keeping the money train rolling.
        Last edited by factsarenice; 09-26-2025, 04:20 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks
          It would be real interesante to see where TBud career goes from here I agree, another undisputed at 160 would definitely seal the deal, and looking at that division rn and considering how he fought Canelo, its looking very reachable. Floyd diehard fans wont agree doe lol.
          After Crawford outclasses everyone at 160lbs the hateful will say they were bums. Crawford has already accomplished more than most would have considered possible. Even if he were to unify 2 more divisions Crawford will never get his due so what's the point??

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          • daggum
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            #15
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            It honestly depends on preference.

            For me Crawford reached a higher level of greatness in regard to individual accomplishments. I think his win over Canelo is better than any individual Mayweather victory. Also becoming Undisputed Champion in three separate weight classes is a more impressive accomplishment than any singular Mayweather accomplishment.

            However, Mayweather reached higher levels of greatness far more consistently. His 10th best win is probably as good as Crawford’s 3rd best win. He definitely has the far deeper resume, including a lot of HOF’ers. He was at the top of the mountain for far longer.

            In terms of head to head, I would pick Crawford, I just think he has more tools, I kind of view it through the same lens as Leonard-Mayweather. Both are great technicians but Bud is easily the better offensive fighter, I think he’s a lot physically stronger too. But again completely subjective, if you think Floyd outboxes him, it’s also a perfectly logical outcome.
            floyd would never step foot in the ring with crawford and would kill the fight with fake demands so all we have is fantasy projections but an old pac outboxed floyd and should have gotten the decision as he landed almost all the clean punches. obviously that was not prime floyd but prime floyd was being blitzed by zab so the same southpaw problems apply. he couldnt stay in the pocket with a skilled southpaw. against pac he literally created so much distance his punches came up short or barely grazed pac, against zab he went to a high guard which worked against zab but crawford would pick him apart if he did that
            Last edited by daggum; 09-26-2025, 04:30 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks

              Call me crazy bro but I do believe old ass Lara present bigger challenge than both Adames and Janibek who are imo a bit overrated. Reason? Lara is experienced af at world championship level, also a southpaw with a tricky cuban boxing style. We'll see who Bud takes on first.
              lara hasnt fought a ranked fighter in 6 years and hasnt beaten a ranked fighter in 9 years lol and never at 160. i think its over for him. hes been on retirement cruise control.

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              • SUBZER0ED
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                #17
                Originally posted by A.B Counterhooks

                Call me crazy bro but I do believe old ass Lara present bigger challenge than both Adames and Janibek who are imo a bit overrated. Reason? Lara is experienced af at world championship level, also a southpaw with a tricky cuban boxing style. We'll see who Bud takes on first.
                Lara is 42, and he hasn't fought any truly threatening opponents since Castano in 2019, against whom he got a draw. And I'm not sure there's much money in a Lara vs Crawford fight. At 38, I think Bud wants the big-money fight, so he can get TFOD rich and intact. But you're right, we will see who he fights next.

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                • SouthpawRight
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                  Lara is 42, and he hasn't fought any truly threatening opponents since Castano in 2019, against whom he got a draw. And I'm not sure there's much money in a Lara vs Crawford fight. At 38, I think Bud wants the big-money fight, so he can get TFOD rich and intact. But you're right, we will see who he fights next.
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                  • Grandma Lover
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
                    Honestly I never seen anyone putting this much stock into belts until Crawford. But I guess it's kinda obvious the people doing it have an agenda.
                    Lmfao the irony. Wasn't your argument and froids argument was "who beat more champs than me" and the champs were old fighters and guys like Robert, maidana etc but now belts don't mean anything cause Crawford?

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