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  • pollywog
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    #11
    Some people gonna ride Joshua's nuts til they shrivel and brokeback mountain blows its load under the pressure of pent up fanboi adulation.

    Fact is, AJ was and is fragile and needed wetnursing by Fast Eddie !

    Going right back to being protected vs Parker in 2018, getting knocked down by a faded Wlad, quitting vs Ruiz and getting schooled by Usyk to the point he literally had a meltdown live and in the ring following his defeat.

    He's been the most cleverly marketed, overhyped, a-side diva the division has seen with his reign at the top, along with the other brokedīck dogs, Fury and Wilder characterized by who they didn't fight more than who they did.

    It will always be a stain on Joshua resume that in his prime he never fought, Fury or Wilder and its too late to redeem that fact.

    And now hes just sitting around, inactive, waiting for a call from the camel racer that'll never come to fight Fury or challenge for a title. Meanwhile his pimp, Hearn is writing cheques with his mouth his charge can't cash.

    It's time to end the myth of Anthony Joshua being anything other than a journeyman hypejob who held some titles to ransom for years with ducks, age outs, lowballs, rematches and a-side diva antics which reflected a deep insecurity and fragile mental state.

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    • Boxing 112
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      #12
      AJ Wilder would still be one of the biggest fights in boxing. Both washed and past it but once announced this fight still does good numbers. They are at the same stage, both washed, both have 4 losses, 1 is chasing a youtuber for a big payday the other is chasing an mma guy for a big payday

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      • Bennyleonard99
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        #13
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        I am not sure why you are mentioning Anthony Joshua, alongside Deontay Wilder 'I think most real honest boxing fans, in the world know? That Anthony Joshua outside of Oleksandr Uysk is the biggest opportunity and most lucrative opponent for any heavyweight fighter on the planet'.

        Note: Deontay Wilder is not on the level of Anthony Joshua in that regards but? I think currently right now, during these latter stages of this era 'people must acknowledge that Wilder was one of the three Heavyweight Mountains of this entire boxing era. Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder for as long as they are competing in the Heavyweight Divisions will have serious value to the fans and the entire sport'.

        The issue what Deontay Wilder has, is that? I think he has become quite apprehensive of competition. The fight with Anthony Joshua is right there to be made, both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder are the two biggest factors stopping the fights with Anthony Joshua happening'.

        But this is no surprise for me, because? Once upon a time, both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder 'decided to tactically fight each other, in order to avoid fighting Anthony Joshua. Both Fury and Wilder, believed that each other was stylistically the more easier fight than Anthony Joshua at that current stage in their careers'.

        If Deontay Wilder wants a mega fight, then make the phone call to Eddie Hearn and team Joshua 'and the same goes for Tyson Fury. What is stopping them? Only themselves and their blatant apprehension of fighting Anthony Joshua, who has always been stylistically a very difficult fight for the both of those fighters'.

        But I will say this? I have always thought that Deontay Wilder is more game to fight Anthony Joshua, and stylistically he is probably a more dangerous fight for Joshua. People must give credit to Deontay Wilder for actually making the 2nd and 3rd trilogy fights with Tyson Fury. If Fury had his way, he would have avoided Wilder in my opinion after the 2nd fight'.

        It was Deontay Wilder's competitiveness, determination and passion as a Champion that made the 2nd and 3rd fights against Tyson Fury happen 'Fury and his hardcore fans, stalled the second fight and tried to avoid the trilogy fight'.

        Tyson Fury throughout his entire career, has never pursued any top level fighters 'outside of Wladimir Kiltschko, he has only taken big fights when he really had to. That is why? I think the likely-hood of Deontay Wilder fighting Anthony Joshua is higher than Tyson Fury suddenly deciding to fight Joshua'.

        To conclude: I like the idea of Anthony Joshua fighting an American Heavyweight fighter 'In America, ether Andy Ruiz Junior III, or Deontay Wilder. If Joshua does not fight one of the top contenders in his comeback fight, an American base fight would be a great opportunity for him'.

        Anthony Joshua is an Olympic Champion, and two times World Heavyweight Champion 'he is the fighter who expanded the global market of the sport in this modern era. But when he went to America, he lost. That is why I still think as a competitor outside of titles, Joshua can still gain from smashing up ether Andy Ruiz Junior III or Deontay Wilder in America' etc.
        AJ even this declined version will slaughterhouse Wilder so bad, it will be over for him. That's why team Fraud Wilder has no interest in pursuing AJ now, then, never, forever. AJ is the end of Wilder's career. They always knew this and that's why they went to such great lengths to fake negotiations and duck him for a decade.

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        • Willow The Wisp
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          #14
          We know that Bennyleonard99 is a trolling alt.
          We know that his knowledge of boxing is decidedly pedestrian.
          What we should also be aware of, is this:

          Olympic Medalist, 3rd best heavyweight of the most modern era of Heavyweights, 43 knockout wins, (more than Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk combined), one of the five hardest punching humans who ever lived, never suffered a single loss while under 35 and in prime.......we could be here awhile, but you all get the point.


          From Americans, the criticisms come from Wilder being black and outspoken, and the envy stemming from the fact that not a single white American exists who Wilder couldn't beat up in a fight.


          From non-Americans, the criticisms relate to the envy of Wilder's country, and comes from the USA owning approximately 26.3% to over 60.0% of the world's nominal GDP, according to the World Bank, between 1960 and today; and a far greater percent of the international patents registered since 1900 from around the world; and a still greater percentage of global firepower/military strength, which outlines the true significance of a nation.


          There is always a reason for why people form their opinions.

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          • SouthpawRight
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            #15
            Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
            We know that Bennyleonard99 is a trolling alt.
            We know that his knowledge of boxing is decidedly pedestrian.
            What we should also be aware of, is this:

            Olympic Medalist, 3rd best heavyweight of the most modern era of Heavyweights, 43 knockout wins, (more than Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk combined), one of the five hardest punching humans who ever lived, never suffered a single loss while under 35 and in prime.......we could be here awhile, but you all get the point.


            From Americans, the criticisms come from Wilder being black and outspoken, and the envy stemming from the fact that not a single white American exists who Wilder couldn't beat up in a fight.


            From non-Americans, the criticisms relate to the envy of Wilder's country, and comes from the USA owning approximately 26.3% to over 60.0% of the world's nominal GDP, according to the World Bank, between 1960 and today; and a far greater percent of the international patents registered since 1900 from around the world; and a still greater percentage of global firepower/military strength, which outlines the true significance of a nation.


            There is always a reason for why people form their opinions.
            from me I thought Deontay could have trained better to get more fighting skills

            no reason why a big puncher like Deontay shouldn't have an inside right hook. Instead he threw a desperate ineffective right slap trying to stop Kung Fu Panda Express Zhang from mauling him

            DEONTAY WILDER EXPLAINS WHY HE DOESNT JOG (AT ALL) TALKS ABOUT FIGHTING INSIDE FIGHTERS 6:40
            Last edited by SouthpawRight; 09-23-2025, 02:35 PM.

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            • The D3vil
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              #16
              Wilder's dxck stay in all of y'alls mouths.

              If he has no value, why do y'all keep making threads about him???

              He's not even talking or being talked about, but he stays living in your head rent free

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              • pollywog
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                #17
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                ...instead he threw a desperate ineffective right slap trying to stop Kung Fu Panda Express Zhang from mauling him
                It worked for Helenius.

                Guess Zhang didn't get the memo that he was supposed to fall over at that stage and act like he'd just peed on an electric fence.



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                • pollywog
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The D3vil
                  ... but he stays living in your head rent free
                  He's more like a passing cloud that strays into someone's field of dreams.

                  Like when a chill blows through with the echo of BOMMMMBSQUAD on the wind making one think, whatever happened to that Windmill guy...

                  No sooner does the cloud pass than the memory of Wilder fades into irrelevance again and you think, i need to put on something warmer and I'm feeling a bit snackish.

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                  • ELPacman
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                    #19
                    Wilder is your typically exciting younger fighter whose candled burned out and once it was out, there was nothing left. He was on an awesome KO tour and had everyone excited about everything. Though the Fury losses took everything out of him and left him a shell. The Wilder of the exciting days is long gone.

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                    • pollywog
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
                      From non-Americans, the criticisms relate to the envy of Wilder's country, and comes from the USA owning approximately 26.3% to over 60.0% of the world's nominal GDP, according to the World Bank, between 1960 and today; and a far greater percent of the international patents registered since 1900 from around the world; and a still greater percentage of global firepower/military strength, which outlines the true significance of a nation.
                      Haha...is that right champ.

                      America is a 300yr old failed social experiment that never factored in the effects of pursuing pure profit on its people, environment and systems.

                      It'll end up a blip in history as China and India reassert themselves as the drivers of economic change since forever and eclipse american exceptionalism in technology and military.

                      The truth is, America was founded on stolen land and sustained by slavery and a flawed political system of governance and judiciary.

                      Everything else is hand waving distraction and window dressing, but the reaper comes for all and it knows whats been sown...

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