Luis Ortiz returns with sensational first round KO, wants ALL THE SMOKE

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  • garfios
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    #41
    Originally posted by kafkod

    He probably did end up making around $7million for the rematch, because it sold well on PPV. But the $7million he turned down from AJ was guaranteed, so it was a better deal. And yeah, he might have had a better chance of winning against AJ on that date. It was one of those nights like AJ's last fight, when, for whatever reason, he didn't perform well at all.
    I'm agreeing with you. But it is not always greener on the other side. He made money with the people he knew, he was winning the fight against Wilder until the haymaker. What could have happened, never did.

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      #42
      Originally posted by daggum


      they literally offered wilder 12 million when wilders career high was 2 million. how in the world would they know wilder would turn down that crazy amount? then they offered him 100 million which is exactly what you were saying wilder was doing. holding out for a better deal...well he held out for a better deal and didnt take it! was he supposed to hold out for 200 million? a billion? like come on. holding out is another way of saying ducking. was canelo holding out against benavidez? the deals offered were insanely good. we know they were good because wilder made nowhere near that amount. they constantly tried to fight him and wilder turned them down over and over. wilder even got caught bluffing when he said he would give joshua 50 million he never sent a contract and ghosted. you just dont have any facts to make the claims you are making. you literally only have wilder saying i want to fight joshua which obviously doesnt match up with reality and is contradicted by his actions. actions>words

      ortiz left match room after less than a year to join pbc. thats not a good way to make the fight. then ortiz got popped for ped's which lost him his mandatory status. thats not a good way to make the fight. then oritz turned down a career high offer. not a good way to make the fight. ortiz was the one running his mouth and marketing himself. he had so many ways to get to the fight and he sabotaged them all.
      When Ortiz became AJ's WBA mandatory challenger, Hearn signed him to Matchroom and gave him an easy fight against Dave Allen on the undercard of AJ vs Molina, to introduce him to the UK fans. After winning that, all Ortiz needed to do was keep his nose clean and wait for his mandatory shot at AJ's titles. But instead, he jumped ship to PBC, signed to fight Wilder, and lost his WBA mandatory position by getting popped for PEDs again.

      And it was all Eddie and AJ's fault, apparently.

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        #43
        Originally posted by daggum

        thats not how boxing works at all and you know it. not every fighter gets the same deal as another fighter. what wilder should have been doing is comparing the joshua deal compared to what he could have earned if he didnt take the deal and we know he earned a lot lot less not to fight joshua, which was the fight he said he always wanted...but we know he was full of crap because wilder turned down 12 million long before this when his career high was 2 million. he was just running his mouth marketing himself. he was not a serious person or fighter
        Canelo and GGG each had their own multi-fight deal with DAZN, which included 2 fights against each other. Canelo's deal was worth $360million. GGG's wasn't disclosed, but you can bet your life it was nowhere near as big as Canelo's.

        So why did GGG accept a deal that was nowhere near as good as his rival's?

        Answer: Because he isn't a fucking idiot and was happy to be earning way more than he would have earned if he'd turned it down and said "gimme as much as Canelo is getting or no deal"

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