Luis Ortiz returns with sensational first round KO, wants ALL THE SMOKE

[daggum]

Shoulda offered him the same deal as AJ and not tried to cöckblock him with Brezeale if they were truly serious.

thats not how boxing works at all and you know it. not every fighter gets the same deal as another fighter. what wilder should have been doing is comparing the joshua deal compared to what he could have earned if he didnt take the deal and we know he earned a lot lot less not to fight joshua, which was the fight he said he always wanted...but we know he was full of crap because wilder turned down 12 million long before this when his career high was 2 million. he was just running his mouth marketing himself. he was not a serious person or fighter

[pollywog]

Breazeale was a mandatory defence that had already been ordered by the WBC, you cock womble.

The offer he turned down was $20million for his mando then $80million for 2 fights with AJ, both in the US. AJ didn't have any deal with DAZN. His purses would have been paid by Matchroom.

No one gives a fück who offered what or turned down whatever rëtard!

The facts are...

AJ didn't unify, was never undisputed and his pimp wasn't prepared to pay what it took or negotiate fairly to give him the opportunity to do so in the ring.

End of story!

Epilogue : First time AJ went to America to conquer, he got exposed and flattened by a fat mexican cherrypicked kid who made him quit in his corner.

Prime Wilder woulda fücked him up even sooner.

[pollywog]

thats not how boxing works at all and you know it. not every fighter gets the same deal as another fighter. what wilder should have been doing is comparing the joshua deal compared to what he could have earned if he didnt take the deal and we know he earned a lot lot less not to fight joshua, which was the fight he said he always wanted...but we know he was full of crap because wilder turned down 12 million long before this when his career high was 2 million. he was just running his mouth marketing himself. he was not a serious person or fighter

Dazn didnt want to release the details of AJ's deal so Wilder backed himself to hold out and stay busy to increase his leverage in the hope of a better deal that just involved fighting AJ for the straps...No cöckblocking.

Unfortunately his own cherrypick of Fury spectacularly backfired as much as AJ's of Ruiz

The thing is, Matchroom never wanted AJ to face Prime Wilder, even right up to setting Parker up later to soften and shopwear him some more before AJ would even consider fighting him.

Hearn never wanted AJ to fight Ortiz either which would have been even easier as at the time it would have been an in-house matchroom bout.

Fast Eddie was just running his mouth marketing himself. AJ is not a serious person or fighter.

[MoneyKing]

Wilders net worth is $46 million.

[garfios]

Bullshit.

Ortiz was paid $500k for his first fight with Wilder and $1.5 million for the rematch. He turned down the fight with AJ because his master, Uncle Al, ordered him to turn it down.

I agreed,
"Luis Ortiz's disclosed purse for his Wilder rematch was $1.5 million, though reports indicate his guaranteed earnings were around $7 million due to the fight being a pay-per-view event. His first fight against Wilder saw him earn $500,000, making the second fight a significant financial increase for him. " Then again, I'm pretty sure they're regretting not taking the fight. He probably made the same amount of money he could have make, but the "what could I have done to AJ" Is probably fvking with his head.

[NihonJim]

I agreed,
"Luis Ortiz's disclosed purse for his Wilder rematch was $1.5 million, though reports indicate his guaranteed earnings were around $7 million due to the fight being a pay-per-view event. His first fight against Wilder saw him earn $500,000, making the second fight a significant financial increase for him. " Then again, I'm pretty sure they're regretting not taking the fight. He probably made the same amount of money he could have make, but the "what could I have done to AJ" Is probably fvking with his head.

Who are these "reports" from? The LDBC?

[daggum]

Dazn didnt want to release the details of AJ's deal so Wilder backed himself to hold out and stay busy to increase his leverage in the hope of a better deal that just involved fighting AJ for the straps...No cöckblocking.

Unfortunately his own cherrypick of Fury spectacularly backfired as much as AJ's of Ruiz

The thing is, Matchroom never wanted AJ to face Prime Wilder, even right up to setting Parker up later to soften and shopwear him some more before AJ would even consider fighting him.

Hearn never wanted AJ to fight Ortiz either which would have been even easier as at the time it would have been an in-house matchroom bout.

Fast Eddie was just running his mouth marketing himself. AJ is not a serious person or fighter.

they literally offered wilder 12 million when wilders career high was 2 million. how in the world would they know wilder would turn down that crazy amount? then they offered him 100 million which is exactly what you were saying wilder was doing. holding out for a better deal...well he held out for a better deal and didnt take it! was he supposed to hold out for 200 million? a billion? like come on. holding out is another way of saying ducking. was canelo holding out against benavidez? the deals offered were insanely good. we know they were good because wilder made nowhere near that amount. they constantly tried to fight him and wilder turned them down over and over. wilder even got caught bluffing when he said he would give joshua 50 million he never sent a contract and ghosted. you just dont have any facts to make the claims you are making. you literally only have wilder saying i want to fight joshua which obviously doesnt match up with reality and is contradicted by his actions. actions>words

ortiz left match room after less than a year to join pbc. thats not a good way to make the fight. then ortiz got popped for ped's which lost him his mandatory status. thats not a good way to make the fight. then oritz turned down a career high offer. not a good way to make the fight. ortiz was the one running his mouth and marketing himself. he had so many ways to get to the fight and he sabotaged them all.

[pollywog]

they literally offered wilder 12 million when wilders career high was 2 million. how in the world would they know wilder would turn down that crazy amount? then they offered him 100 million which is exactly what you were saying wilder was doing. holding out for a better deal...well he held out for a better deal and didnt take it! was he supposed to hold out for 200 million? a billion? like come on. holding out is another way of saying ducking. was canelo holding out against benavidez? the deals offered were insanely good. we know they were good because wilder made nowhere near that amount. they constantly tried to fight him and wilder turned them down over and over. wilder even got caught bluffing when he said he would give joshua 50 million he never sent a contract and ghosted. you just dont have any facts to make the claims you are making. you literally only have wilder saying i want to fight joshua which obviously doesnt match up with reality and is contradicted by his actions. actions>words

ortiz left match room after less than a year to join pbc. thats not a good way to make the fight. then ortiz got popped for ped's which lost him his mandatory status. thats not a good way to make the fight. then oritz turned down a career high offer. not a good way to make the fight. ortiz was the one running his mouth and marketing himself. he had so many ways to get to the fight and he sabotaged them all.

Thoughts on the stairs cos it doesn't matter, it's too late and no one cares!

[kafkod]

Dazn didnt want to release the details of AJ's deal so Wilder backed himself to hold out and stay busy to increase his leverage in the hope of a better deal that just involved fighting AJ for the straps...No cöckblocking.

Unfortunately his own cherrypick of Fury spectacularly backfired as much as AJ's of Ruiz

The thing is, Matchroom never wanted AJ to face Prime Wilder, even right up to setting Parker up later to soften and shopwear him some more before AJ would even consider fighting him.

Hearn never wanted AJ to fight Ortiz either which would have been even easier as at the time it would have been an in-house matchroom bout.

Fast Eddie was just running his mouth marketing himself. AJ is not a serious person or fighter.

There were no details to release. AJ has never had any deal with DAZN. Eddie Hearn negotiates his fees from them on a fight by fight basis. Wilder's deal would have been between him and DAZN, same as Canelo and GGG both had their own individual multi-fight deals with DAZN, which included 2 fights against each other.

Wilder wasn't backing himself, he was being manipulated by Haymon and Shelley Finkel into doing what was best for PBC at that time, not what was best for him. Same thing was happening with Ortiz. They were both manipulated by Haymon, who was desperate to stop DAZN getting a foothold in US boxing.

[kafkod]

I agreed,
"Luis Ortiz's disclosed purse for his Wilder rematch was $1.5 million, though reports indicate his guaranteed earnings were around $7 million due to the fight being a pay-per-view event. His first fight against Wilder saw him earn $500,000, making the second fight a significant financial increase for him. " Then again, I'm pretty sure they're regretting not taking the fight. He probably made the same amount of money he could have make, but the "what could I have done to AJ" Is probably fvking with his head.

He probably did end up making around $7million for the rematch, because it sold well on PPV. But the $7million he turned down from AJ was guaranteed, so it was a better deal. And yeah, he might have had a better chance of winning against AJ on that date. It was one of those nights like AJ's last fight, when, for whatever reason, he didn't perform well at all.