If Arum had allowed Pacquiao to fight Crawford…

[ShoulderRoll]

Let's say the fight did happen, wtf do you think would come of it from Crawford in the event he would have won? He'd still be with top rank contractually so tell me what do you think.

What kind of question is that? If Crawford had beaten Pacquiao he becomes a bigger star sooner and obviously he gets a huge scalp on his resume.

[Grandma Lover]

What kind of question is that? If Crawford had beaten Pacquiao he becomes a bigger star sooner and obviously he gets a huge scalp on his resume.

So he'd have gotten the fights against pbc stable?

[JOITATS]

Why would anyone care to see an over the hill damaged Pacman fight Crawford?

The real question is what would have happened if Floyd accepted the fight with Manny during their primes? Instead he waited til Marquez knocked him out. Or when has Crawford ever fought anyone elite in their prime?

[ShoulderRoll]

Why would anyone care to see an over the hill damaged Pacman fight Crawford?

The real question is what would have happened if Floyd accepted the fight with Manny during their primes? Instead he waited til Marquez knocked him out. Or when has Crawford ever fought anyone elite in their prime?

Floyd signed to fight Pacquiao way back in 2009 but Pacquiao ducked because he was scared of needles. Remember?

This has all been covered before.

[daggum]

crawford didnt want to fight pac and demanded pac come down to 140 to make the fight. arums fault! after pac "lost" to horn, crawford happily moved up to fight horn so guess it wasnt the weight after all. arums fault! then after pac beat thurman he offered him 6.5 million plus ppv but crawford fought brook for 4 million no ppv. arum's fault!

[Sallywynder]

Just to set history straight; Manny is ducking no one, ever. Getting knocked out cold never even affected him. How many fighters get slept like that and it made zero difference to them going forward? It changed Hatton. Changed Fenech. Changed RJJ. Etc, etc, etc. Never affected Manny..

[TintaBoricua]

How do you think it would have gone?

Bullshit Bob had both of them at Top Rank at the same time. That would have been an in-house fight worth making, but of course it’s the one the King of the In-House Fights wouldn’t give us.

I feel he robbed the fans of what would have been a historically significant legacy type of fight.

You’re implying it was Arum that didn’t give it to us, but in my honest opinion I think that was PAC’s team not wanting to fight Bud. I’m sure Bud wanted that fight, and just as Arum was trying to turn Bradley into the next American superstar when he signed him in late 2011/early 2012, I’m sure he would’ve liked to turn Bud into a superstar but Bob couldn’t force one of his fighters (who had already done so much for him) to fight a red hot fighter with a killer’s mentality while Pacquiao is clearly on the way out (whether he looked good or not against fighters such as Broner and Matthysse).

Freddie himself was confident that they could beat Spence…not so much the much more obviously versatile Crawford.

That fight could’ve put Crawford over somewhere in 2017-2019 and turned him into a star much earlier. But who knows how things would’ve rippled.

Maybe we don’t get Canelo/Spence and Spence prices himself out? Maybe Crawford fights Jermell Charlo at 154 and does to him what he did to Spence? We never get the Canelo fight…or maybe we do. And by 2023-2024 he becomes undisputed at 140/147/154/168.

Who knows?

I sometimes go back and wonder for example how MUCH Margarito stopping Cotto had an effect on the welterweight division and the chess pieces in general.

If Cotto remains undefeated and decisions Margarito, we get De La Hoya/Cotto in December 08(Oscar had said that he had thought of making that fight). Oscar makes Cotto go to 154 but by now he’s past his best days, Cotto decisions him. Pacquiao hovers around 135-140 after that. The idea of cherry-picking a weak 147 pounder is not an option. Cotto goes back down to 147 and still has an “0”. Mosley is still formidable, Paul Williams is still out there, Margarito is trying to line himself up with a Cotto rematch after a fight of the year candidate, Andre Berto is still undefeated. We never get that clinically insane run that Pacquiao has. And maybe because of it, we never find out just how legendary Pacquiao becomes. He remains great as a legend in the sport but never morphs into the mainstream superstar he ended up becoming.

[Grandma Lover]

What kind of question is that? If Crawford had beaten Pacquiao he becomes a bigger star sooner and obviously he gets a huge scalp on his resume.

I asked your dumbass a question in your own thread. So you gonna answer bltch??

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I got the impression Bob wanted to make the fight but Team Pacquiao weren’t too keen on it. I think Crawford would have stopped that version of Pacquiao tbh.

[champion4ever]

Bud would’ve dished out a systematic asswhupping. That is what would have happened. Which is why Bud was ducked. The fight would have taken place the same time as Pac fought Jeff Horn in 2017.