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  • #91
    Originally posted by Lineal Champ View Post
    OK buddy if you'd up your comprehension and reading skills you would realize that I was talking to BOX-A-LOT, not you. Go in your corner and write more articles...OK....Buddy.
    Yeah sorry bud. I misread your post. My mistake.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by BOX-A-LOT View Post
      I didn't say 'roid use, because PAC has never been caught, however, there are other illegal substances that can enhance an athletes performance. Below is an article that was originally posted by another boxingscene member.

      I looked up the name of the other strength & conditioning coach. At the end of this article, I attached the bio of this particular coach and I must say, this is some shady ****!! Now, it's also a possibility that PAC's strength and conditioning coach just happens to have the same exact name as the man involved in the Balco scandal, I don't know.


      -------------------------------------------------------------

      In an overseas telephone conversation with Boxingscene.com, Insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports, Manny Pacquiao’s media advisor Mike Koncz said training was progressing remarkably well despite persistent reports of in-camp fighting.

      “Everything is going exactly to plan” Koncz declared, suggesting that rumors to the contrary were a “ruse perpetrated by the betting industry”.

      Conditioning coach Alex Ariza has allowed a rare glimpse into Pacquiao’s eating regime. “Manny loves bananas” he said, pointing out that he had eaten one for breakfast that very morning.

      Another source told us that Manny’s fondness for bananas was beginning to frustrate trainer Freddie Roach. It was rumored that Manny frequently had to rush to the bathroom mid sparring on more than one occasion. “They just go straight through him” Roach was heard to mutter.

      Pacquiao’s chief sparring partner Jose Luis Castillo was reluctant to comment although he did hint that bananas were Manny’s “secret weapon” when trying to make weight.

      It can also be revealed that Pacquiao’s camp has enlisted the help of former athletics coach Trevor Graham for “secret strength and speed coaching”.

      “It’s not the first time we have used him
      ” Ariza said, suggesting that Graham was actually the mastermind behind Manny’s freakish success over the past few years.

      “He wouldn’t be here without Big Trev, that’s for sure”
      Roach admitted.

      Manny has also been running everyday, except during periods of inclement weather.
      “He doesn’t like to get his feet wet” laughed sparring partner Shawn Porter, “It’s no wonder he can’t swim”.



      Trevor Graham
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


      Trevor Graham is a Jamaican-born former athletics coach, based in the United States. Following the BALCO scandal, the US Olympic Committee barred him indefinitely from all its training sites as a number of the athletes he was training had tested positive for drug abuse.
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      Formed in 1993 by Graham and incorporated in 1997, Sprint Capitol USA was based at the Paul Derr Track on the North Carolina State University Main Campus in Raleigh, North Carolina.

      Among the athletes who joined and trained with the group were:

      * Shawn Crawford
      * Justin Gatlin- received an 8 year suspension from USADA in 2006
      * Alvin Harrison- received a 4 year suspension from USADA in 2004
      * C.J. Hunter- tested positive for Nandrolone after withdrawing from the Olympics in 2000.
      * Marion Jones- olympic medals and world records revoked after she admitted accepting performance enhancing drugs from Graham in the BALCO scandal
      * Tim Montgomery - 100m World Record revoked after he admitted accepting steroids and other performance enhancing drugs from BALCO[4]
      * Antonio Pettigrew- Olympic medals for entire 2000 U.S 4 x 400 metres relay team were returned following admission of use of HGH and EPO under Graham
      * Jerome Young- received suspension and disqualifications for using Nandrolone, since overturned
      * Marcus Brunson
      * Duane Ross
      * Randall Evans
      * Chandra Sturrup
      * Me'Lisa Barber
      * LaTasha Jenkins

      [edit] BALCO scandal

      Graham played a critical role in the BALCO (Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative) scandal of June 2003, anonymously sending a syringe containing the designer steroid Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) to the United States Anti-Doping Agency. In July 2006, Angel Guillermo Heredia testified before a US Federal Grand Jury that he had worked for Graham from 1996 to 2000, providing illegal performance enhancing drugs. While a number of athletes coached by Trevor Graham have received suspensions for drug use, he has always denied direct knowledge or involvement, and denies having ever met Heredia.[5] After Gatlin failed a test for testosterone, announced in July 2006, Graham stated in an interview that Gatlin had been set up. [6][4]

      An unsent letter written by BALCO's Victor Conte to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency described the use of an oral testosterone by Graham that "will clear the body and be undetectable in urine in less than a week after discontinuing use." At the end of the letter, Gatlin was one of four athletes identified as using the drug.[7]

      The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) said on July 31, 2006 that Graham could face a two-year ban if evidence links him to any doping violations and the United States Anti-Doping Agency decides not to take action.[8]

      On August 3, 2006 the United States Olympic Committee banned Trevor Graham from its training facilities[9]. This was the first time a coach has received such a ban based on the excessive number athletes in their charge who have tested positive. As a result of the above events, Nike ended its contract with Graham in August 2006.[10]

      On May 29, 2008 Graham was convicted of one count of lying to federal investigators. A mistrial was declared on two other counts as jurors could not reach a unanimous agreement.[11]

      The US Anti-Doping Agency chief executive Travis Tygar, on July 15, 2008, confirmed a life ban on Trevor Graham for breaking anti-drugs rules: "It sends a powerful reminder that coaches are not above the rules. There's a misconception that they are because we don't drug-test them, but this shows that we'll use all of our authority. There's no opportunity to seek reinstatement. Any chance that he may have had for that has passed. He's waived that."[12] His ban included participation in any event sanctioned by the U.S. Olympic Committee, the IAAF, USA Track & Field or any other group that participates in the World Anti-Doping Agency program
      There are so many bunches of idiots accusing Pac these steroids and enhancement thing. Just because Pac knocking his opponents silly then they assumed he's using it. The fact is they just scared that Pac might beat their fraud hero. Pac has been knocking out his opponents silly since he was 17 years old when he entered in boxing as pro. Do the math.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Cle-Venger View Post
        Of course he's on something. He's from a small 2nd world country, and doesn't know much about these types of things. They become big and pick up some jerk off big time trainer.. This trainer really wants to make a name for himself, and the un suspecting boxer does whatever he says, especially since its working..

        There is no doubtin my mind pac is on something. I hate that it's like that, but it is, and it's truly not even his fault.
        Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
        I thought this was common knowledge.
        Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
        Did Marion Jones ever test positive? Did Shane Mosley ever test positive?

        Manny Pacquiao is a steroid user.
        no offense but do you homies even realize just how freakin gullible you all looked now? I mean come ON!

        it's one thing when simpletons believe stuffs without even validating, confirming or at the very least checking the source and another thing when they actually open their mouths about the subject matter to try and look intelligent and end up doing the opposite.

        Al Haymon, i used to respect your opinions when we had a debate about this whole steroid thing since you were dancing around that "in my opinion" borderline thing, but now you actually blatantly accused pac of steroids and guess what was the trigger... an article without even enough substance to be published by enquirer... just how pathetic can you get bro???

        oh and yeah..

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8309826.stm

        you guys may want to comment on that.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by BOX-A-LOT View Post
          I didn't say 'roid use, because PAC has never been caught, however, there are other illegal substances that can enhance an athletes performance. Below is an article that was originally posted by another boxingscene member.

          I looked up the name of the other strength & conditioning coach. At the end of this article, I attached the bio of this particular coach and I must say, this is some shady ****!! Now, it's also a possibility that PAC's strength and conditioning coach just happens to have the same exact name as the man involved in the Balco scandal, I don't know.


          -------------------------------------------------------------

          In an overseas telephone conversation with Boxingscene.com, Insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports, Manny Pacquiao’s media advisor Mike Koncz said training was progressing remarkably well despite persistent reports of in-camp fighting.

          “Everything is going exactly to plan” Koncz declared, suggesting that rumors to the contrary were a “ruse perpetrated by the betting industry”.

          Conditioning coach Alex Ariza has allowed a rare glimpse into Pacquiao’s eating regime. “Manny loves bananas” he said, pointing out that he had eaten one for breakfast that very morning.

          Another source told us that Manny’s fondness for bananas was beginning to frustrate trainer Freddie Roach. It was rumored that Manny frequently had to rush to the bathroom mid sparring on more than one occasion. “They just go straight through him” Roach was heard to mutter.

          Pacquiao’s chief sparring partner Jose Luis Castillo was reluctant to comment although he did hint that bananas were Manny’s “secret weapon” when trying to make weight.

          It can also be revealed that Pacquiao’s camp has enlisted the help of former athletics coach Trevor Graham for “secret strength and speed coaching”.

          “It’s not the first time we have used him
          ” Ariza said, suggesting that Graham was actually the mastermind behind Manny’s freakish success over the past few years.

          “He wouldn’t be here without Big Trev, that’s for sure”
          Roach admitted.

          Manny has also been running everyday, except during periods of inclement weather.
          “He doesn’t like to get his feet wet” laughed sparring partner Shawn Porter, “It’s no wonder he can’t swim”.



          Trevor Graham
          From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


          Trevor Graham is a Jamaican-born former athletics coach, based in the United States. Following the BALCO scandal, the US Olympic Committee barred him indefinitely from all its training sites as a number of the athletes he was training had tested positive for drug abuse.
          Contents
          [hide]





          Formed in 1993 by Graham and incorporated in 1997, Sprint Capitol USA was based at the Paul Derr Track on the North Carolina State University Main Campus in Raleigh, North Carolina.

          Among the athletes who joined and trained with the group were:

          * Shawn Crawford
          * Justin Gatlin- received an 8 year suspension from USADA in 2006
          * Alvin Harrison- received a 4 year suspension from USADA in 2004
          * C.J. Hunter- tested positive for Nandrolone after withdrawing from the Olympics in 2000.
          * Marion Jones- olympic medals and world records revoked after she admitted accepting performance enhancing drugs from Graham in the BALCO scandal
          * Tim Montgomery - 100m World Record revoked after he admitted accepting steroids and other performance enhancing drugs from BALCO[4]
          * Antonio Pettigrew- Olympic medals for entire 2000 U.S 4 x 400 metres relay team were returned following admission of use of HGH and EPO under Graham
          * Jerome Young- received suspension and disqualifications for using Nandrolone, since overturned
          * Marcus Brunson
          * Duane Ross
          * Randall Evans
          * Chandra Sturrup
          * Me'Lisa Barber
          * LaTasha Jenkins

          [edit] BALCO scandal

          Graham played a critical role in the BALCO (Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative) scandal of June 2003, anonymously sending a syringe containing the designer steroid Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) to the United States Anti-Doping Agency. In July 2006, Angel Guillermo Heredia testified before a US Federal Grand Jury that he had worked for Graham from 1996 to 2000, providing illegal performance enhancing drugs. While a number of athletes coached by Trevor Graham have received suspensions for drug use, he has always denied direct knowledge or involvement, and denies having ever met Heredia.[5] After Gatlin failed a test for testosterone, announced in July 2006, Graham stated in an interview that Gatlin had been set up. [6][4]

          An unsent letter written by BALCO's Victor Conte to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency described the use of an oral testosterone by Graham that "will clear the body and be undetectable in urine in less than a week after discontinuing use." At the end of the letter, Gatlin was one of four athletes identified as using the drug.[7]

          The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) said on July 31, 2006 that Graham could face a two-year ban if evidence links him to any doping violations and the United States Anti-Doping Agency decides not to take action.[8]

          On August 3, 2006 the United States Olympic Committee banned Trevor Graham from its training facilities[9]. This was the first time a coach has received such a ban based on the excessive number athletes in their charge who have tested positive. As a result of the above events, Nike ended its contract with Graham in August 2006.[10]

          On May 29, 2008 Graham was convicted of one count of lying to federal investigators. A mistrial was declared on two other counts as jurors could not reach a unanimous agreement.[11]

          The US Anti-Doping Agency chief executive Travis Tygar, on July 15, 2008, confirmed a life ban on Trevor Graham for breaking anti-drugs rules: "It sends a powerful reminder that coaches are not above the rules. There's a misconception that they are because we don't drug-test them, but this shows that we'll use all of our authority. There's no opportunity to seek reinstatement. Any chance that he may have had for that has passed. He's waived that."[12] His ban included participation in any event sanctioned by the U.S. Olympic Committee, the IAAF, USA Track & Field or any other group that participates in the World Anti-Doping Agency program
          OH ****!!!...WTF?!?.......this is crazy!!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by blacksocks View Post
            Until he is tested positive, these are all rumors and speculations. Don't they test these boxers before and after a fight particularly in the USA?
            They do test before and after fights in the US, but not during training. But from what I understand peds are done in cycles, so by the time manny gets to the states for testing his cycle may be over. If I were Cotto I'd request tests during camp, just encase cuz there's to much suspect rumors floating around. And if pac declines then we know. U know they don't have guidelines where he's training now.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by ummid View Post
              no offense but do you homies even realize just how freakin gullible you all looked now? I mean come ON!

              it's one thing when simpletons believe stuffs without even validating, confirming or at the very least checking the source and another thing when they actually open their mouths about the subject matter to try and look intelligent and end up doing the opposite.

              Al Haymon, i used to respect your opinions when we had a debate about this whole steroid thing since you were dancing around that "in my opinion" borderline thing, but now you actually blatantly accused pac of steroids and guess what was the trigger... an article without even enough substance to be published by enquirer... just how pathetic can you get bro???

              oh and yeah..

              http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8309826.stm

              you guys may want to comment on that.
              exactly....Al Haymon and i had a similar argument, and he couldn't even back up his facts before, He said sumthin in the realms of its alright to talk about BS not backed up by facts if you say "its just an opinion"

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Al Haymon View Post
                Kizer said what we already knew. That Pacquiao did not test positive.

                But testing is largely meaningless. The testing is neither random nor comprehensive.
                lol you just have a clear mindset that he's a roider huh? even if they fckin test him in front of you...you already have a predetermined thought ...you just clearly want him to be a roider

                when you're too ignorant to realize greatness in front of you, just classify him as a roider. priceless

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                • #98
                  this is one clear indication that PAC is on TOP of the WORLD, people trying to pull him down...

                  haters got tired of the weight drained oscar; the made to order diaz and the overrated hatton excuses... now they have a new baby roids or performance enhancers ... LOLZ

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
                    OH ****!!!...WTF?!?.......this is crazy!!
                    It's a joke thread guys.... Stop falling for it, it's lowering our credibility...

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                    • Originally posted by Kalion View Post
                      Your right, the thing to look for is physique and muscle tone. Look at Barry Bonds for example. He was 205-215 fairly skinny for most of his career then he suddenly gains 30-40 lbs of muscle in no time. Ima go look at some pics of pac from like 2003 and now. Someone should post some.
                      You better accuse Chris Byrd of taking roids as well then, he went from being a middleweight to heavyweight within about 1 year.

                      And pics have already been posted because this topic is already played out. Pacquiao looked pretty much no different to how he used to.



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