This maybe the tip of the iceberg re: su****ions of performance enhancers use by PAC

[Puya]

...hhhmm!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Y50hE5ri8

bump!! !!

[Kalion]

If that's a fact, then we can't cast aspersions on Pac only based on his performance. We should doubt everyone else. Pac has been known for his stamina and strength even before he got these conditioning coaches.

Your right, the thing to look for is physique and muscle tone. Look at Barry Bonds for example. He was 205-215 fairly skinny for most of his career then he suddenly gains 30-40 lbs of muscle in no time. Ima go look at some pics of pac from like 2003 and now. Someone should post some.

[johncods]

It aint that simple.

This is not the early days of steriods where you could make on test to indicate the use of all the differnt steroids commonly used by athlethes. They come up with new designer drugs everyday. It takes years sometime for the NSAC to find out about and create test to indicate the use of these new drugs.

HGH has been used by MLB players for years, proably as early as 1999-2000. Why do you think players are jes now starting to test postive over the last few years?

Well then why is pac being singled out because a crackhead said so??.. LOL ok.. I wouldn't be surprised most of the top fighters are including floyd are using it too..

[Akyra]

cotto will destroy him anyway. he's that weak at the WW division.

[Al Haymon]

Stop being a Pac hater. NSAC came out with a statement also about Pac being clean during testing after Floyd Daddy's accusation.

Kizer said what we already knew. That Pacquiao did not test positive.

But testing is largely meaningless. The testing is neither random nor comprehensive.

[Philfy]

By jove you're right. Grahams involvement raises some serious questions about Pacquiao.

For instance, why is the strength and speed coaching so "secret"? Could there be performance enhancing drugs involved? Is that why they are training in the remote mountains of the Philippines? To evade drug testing perhaps?

[johncods]

Your right, the thing to look for is physique and muscle tone. Look at Barry Bonds for example. He was 205-215 fairly skinny for most of his career then he suddenly gains 30-40 lbs of muscle in no time. Ima go look at some pics of pac from like 2003 and now. Someone should post some.

LOL pac is toned.. he doesnt have bulky muscles.. and FYI pac weighed 147 fight night in the marquez rematch.. same weight against hatton..

[loui_ludwig]

Pac always has good physique. He was more tone when he was lighter of course. But even when he went up in weight, his physique is still good due he trains hard.

[BOX-A-LOT]

Your right, the thing to look for is physique and muscle tone. Look at Barry Bonds for example. He was 205-215 fairly skinny for most of his career then he suddenly gains 30-40 lbs of muscle in no time. Ima go look at some pics of pac from like 2003 and now. Someone should post some.

Can you put up a side-by-side pic of PAC's physique from yester-years to present time.

I mean, the only reason I thought all the steroid talk was garbage was because PAC and I are practically the same height and close in age. But, I keep forgetting that at the age he started pro boxing, he fought as a 106lber, at that same age, I was a 135lber, and he has bulked up fast!

I mean, we can laugh at Floyd Sr all day long and no one really takes him seriously, but, the man has been around the game for a looooong time. He might talk like a d*mmy, but the man knows the ins and out of the boxing business, that's for sure!

[Kalion]

Well then why is pac being singled out because a crackhead said so??.. LOL ok.. I wouldn't be surprised most of the top fighters are including floyd are using it too..

Neither would I. I think Pac is starting to look suspuscious because just as he has shot off in a suscess rocket. He has drawn the company of a man connected to PEDs/Steroids on several different occasions and with several different athlethes. And he even banned from one sport. Anyone hang witht this guy is suspuscious.