The REAL Reason TBud Is Cold Towards manny
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TBud is so jealous of Pacquiao's success.
Watch TBud trying to convince Joe Rogan that Manny vs Horn wasn't a robbery, TBud switched his stance from saying it was a robbery after fighting Jeff Horn so that he can hype uhis win against Horn
.. The funny part is while TBud was explaining why it wasn't a robbery, the clip playing in the background shows Pacquiao piecing Horn up.
Joe Rogan was like ehhhhhhh....
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TBud is so jealous of Pacquiao's success.
Watch TBud trying to convince Joe Rogan that Manny vs Horn wasn't a robbery, TBud switched his stance from saying it was a robbery after fighting Jeff Horn so that he can hype uhis win against Horn
.. The funny part is while TBud was explaining why it wasn't a robbery, the clip playing in the background shows Pacquiao piecing Horn up.
Joe Rogan was like ehhhhhhh....
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- the Horn decision against manny evens out the gift manny received vs Juan 3

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Peep the comment section, even the TBud fans is disagreeing with him.
The fact that TBud tried to convince Joe Rogan all while the clip in the background is showing Pacquiao piecing Horn up.Comment
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I don't think Manny lost 3 times to Marquez. Just because Marquez put up a better fight and probably the best fight of any fighters Pacquiao had been facing, doesn't mean he necessarily won them. Manny arguably won their first fight if the 3 KD was scored proper in first rd. The fight otherwise was quite neck and neck with Marquez crawling his way back in and giving a great account of himself considering the first rd.
Second fight was again very close, but the knockdown was the difference, especially in a fight where both guys were neck and neck and one scored a knockdown. Now, I will admit, I think Pacquiao lost the 3rd fight. I remember watching at home and said, Okay, Marquez is finally going to get the nod he's been looking for, but no. When they raised Pacquiao's hand, even he had a face of almost, WOW, OKAY, I'll TAKE IT.
Then I would say, the entire world thought Pacquiao beat Tim Bradly in their first fight when they gave it to Bradley. Even he hated to have the win because so many people told him he lost and his head went in a dark place during those times.
The Horn fight looked like it was about to be stopped in one particular rd with the beating Pacquiao was giving him. I chock up the decision simply to home town scoring. Word on the street was that Australia was very known to give scores to their home town fighter and tons of bad decisions were the result over there. They needed a new champion to make money off of because when you live in a bubble, having any sports figure helps the economy. You sell tickets, hotels, food, etc. etc. What better than giving it to your countryman to beat a legend like Pacquiao?
That said, back to Tbud's comments, who really cares? A lot of folks at the top have ego and the last thing they want to hear is someone else that exists in their space. Although I never heard Pacquiao talk negative about anyone besides probably Mayweather, you got guys like Mayweather calling himself the greatest and Tbud not wanting to acknowledge Pacquiao's accomplishments because they're quite hefty for anyone to beat. Though Tbud's feat as well won't be easily replicated.Comment
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manny beat Timmeh in fight 1 but was beat by Juan in fight 3
I don't think Manny lost 3 times to Marquez. Just because Marquez put up a better fight and probably the best fight of any fighters Pacquiao had been facing, doesn't mean he necessarily won them. Manny arguably won their first fight if the 3 KD was scored proper in first rd. The fight otherwise was quite neck and neck with Marquez crawling his way back in and giving a great account of himself considering the first rd.
Second fight was again very close, but the knockdown was the difference, especially in a fight where both guys were neck and neck and one scored a knockdown. Now, I will admit, I think Pacquiao lost the 3rd fight. I remember watching at home and said, Okay, Marquez is finally going to get the nod he's been looking for, but no. When they raised Pacquiao's hand, even he had a face of almost, WOW, OKAY, I'll TAKE IT.
Then I would say, the entire world thought Pacquiao beat Tim Bradly in their first fight when they gave it to Bradley. Even he hated to have the win because so many people told him he lost and his head went in a dark place during those times.
The Horn fight looked like it was about to be stopped in one particular rd with the beating Pacquiao was giving him. I chock up the decision simply to home town scoring. Word on the street was that Australia was very known to give scores to their home town fighter and tons of bad decisions were the result over there. They needed a new champion to make money off of because when you live in a bubble, having any sports figure helps the economy. You sell tickets, hotels, food, etc. etc. What better than giving it to your countryman to beat a legend like Pacquiao?
That said, back to Tbud's comments, who really cares? A lot of folks at the top have ego and the last thing they want to hear is someone else that exists in their space. Although I never heard Pacquiao talk negative about anyone besides probably Mayweather, you got guys like Mayweather calling himself the greatest and Tbud not wanting to acknowledge Pacquiao's accomplishments because they're quite hefty for anyone to beat. Though Tbud's feat as well won't be easily replicated.
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Terence Crawford insisted that any fight with Manny Pacquiao would have to take place at the 140-pound super lightweight division. In 2016, after defeating Viktor Postol to unify titles at 140 pounds, Crawford made it clear that Pacquiao would need to move down in weight to meet him there, as Pacquiao had been fighting at the welterweight (147-pound) division for years.
revising history? pac hadnt fought at 140 in 7 years and crawford wanted him to come down? cant be serious. after horn robbed pac then crawford found it safe enough to move up and fight horn lol. if you dont want to fight then you dont want to fight but of course every fighter has to act hard and run their mouth for PR purposes. i want pac! but in reality what he means is i want pac as long as he agrees to do something i know he never will agree to.
after crawford moved up pac then signed to fight both thurman and spence while crawford fought shot fighters like khan and brook. he was having his floyd moment picking the easy big fights but pac never avoided him. they even tried tofight him in 2020 offering him a career high purse and in 2021 when pac was a billion years old but pac chose spence instead who was #1. ducking? spence was the better option at that point.
Nov. 13, 2020
Top Rank chairman Bob Arum received authorization from Pacquiao this summer to pursue a fight with Crawford in Qatar slated for November on ESPN PPV, sources said, and talks ostensibly reached an advanced stage.
Crawford was offered $6.5 million guaranteed, per sources, along with upside of the pay-per-view at $5 for every buy over 300,000. He countered at $9.5 million with upside at 500,000
crawford fought brook instead for 4 million and no ppv upside.
derp.Last edited by daggum; 09-18-2025, 04:55 PM.Comment
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Well that's false.
Terence Crawford insisted that any fight with Manny Pacquiao would have to take place at the 140-pound super lightweight division. In 2016, after defeating Viktor Postol to unify titles at 140 pounds, Crawford made it clear that Pacquiao would need to move down in weight to meet him there, as Pacquiao had been fighting at the welterweight (147-pound) division for years.
revising history? pac hadnt fought at 140 in 7 years and crawford wanted him to come down? cant be serious. after horn robbed pac then crawford found it safe enough to move up and fight horn lol. if you dont want to fight then you dont want to fight but of course every fighter has to act hard and run their mouth for PR purposes. i want pac! but in reality what he means is i want pac as long as he agrees to do something i know he never will agree to.
after crawford moved up pac then signed to fight both thurman and spence while crawford fought shot fighters like khan and brook. he was having his floyd moment picking the easy big fights but pac never avoided him. they even tried tofight him in 2020 offering him a career high purse and in 2021 when pac was a billion years old but pac chose spence instead who was #1. ducking? spence was the better option at that point.
Nov. 13, 2020
Top Rank chairman Bob Arum received authorization from Pacquiao this summer to pursue a fight with Crawford in Qatar slated for November on ESPN PPV, sources said, and talks ostensibly reached an advanced stage.
Crawford was offered $6.5 million guaranteed, per sources, along with upside of the pay-per-view at $5 for every buy over 300,000. He countered at $9.5 million with upside at 500,000
crawford fought brook instead for 4 million and no ppv upside.
derp.
Bob Arum himself said he protected Manny Pacquaio from Terence Crawford
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