Mayweather's resume is massively overrated comapre to BUD

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  • JOITATS
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    #51
    Both Mayweather and Crawford best opponents were well past their primes. Especially Crawford who has made a career of beating guys on the brink of retirement.

    That’s the truth.

    But Mayweather had a much better resume when he was younger.

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    • TheProudLunatic
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      #52
      May has been retired for almost a decade
      Still relevant

      Let's see if Bud is mentioned a year from now.

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      • Gate keeper
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        #53
        What everyone seems to be forgetting is that Crawford's resume is also more honest and he should get more points for that. If memory serves me, Mayweather never went for undisputed anything and rarely ever even tried to unify titles or fight mandatories. That's cause he cherry picked to death. Crawford said I'm going for undisputed. I don't care who has those titles or how in their prime they are, I'm coming after them. That's harder to do. There will always be unpredictable wild card fighters who can make you look bad or get an upset no matter what their record.

        That's why fighters avoid doing so when they become a name. Notice Canelo also generally avoided mandatories, until 168 where they were incredibly weak, and also avoided undisputed at 154 abs 160. Crawford is a true champion, no catch weight or A side bs or a favorite referee that's going to let you hold all night. Face it, Crawford is more of an old school purist type of champion where as Mayweather is more of a cosmetic marketing gimmick Don King type champion.

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        • TheProudLunatic
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          #54
          Originally posted by Gate keeper
          What everyone seems to be forgetting is that Crawford's resume is also more honest and he should get more points for that. If memory serves me, Mayweather never went for undisputed anything and rarely ever even tried to unify titles or fight mandatories......,
          @ the bold.........
          Pls explain

          Whatever May didn't do somehow makes him still relevant even after almost a decade into retirement.
          And is constantly matched with and compared to every ATG there is

          Holy shlt !!!

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          • CubanGuyNYC
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            #55
            Originally posted by MalevolentBite
            I cant even take this serious. Spence? A faded kell brook and Amir Khan? A blown up Gamboa? Jeff Horn? Jeff Horn? A washed up Shawn Porter? Some Russian. Some African. He never faced tim Bradley who was under top rank, never faced Pacquiao who was under top rank.

            Dont get me wrong Crawford is great no shade but his weakest link is his resume names. Crawford got the accolades but Floyd got the names. We will see who will remember him in 20 years. It isnt like Crawford was a big market in boxing. He will be like Aaron Pryor. Great but forgotten.

            This new generation jumps from one hero to the next hero. Internet moves way faster than text books. Floyd came in during the last years of real boxing journalism not youtube boxing channels filled with casuals trying to make a quick buck.
            Didn’t even bother reading beyond your post. You said it all. Thread should’ve ended with your reply.

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            • dan_cov
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              #56
              I've seen a lot of comparisons and its mostly an attempt to claim Bud is greater/better than Floyd.

              You get a lot discrediting Floyds best wins - Which is fair even his most diehard fans will tell you so & so wasn't at their best and such. There is also a lot of emphasis always on Floyd how he didn't beat a prime ATG, again fair criticism, you can make that case.
              But what I ask is this, apply the same view to Crawfords resume.

              Look at his resume and just be honest with yourself, was these guys prime or even close to it?
              The only one that was really, Postol who while a decent boxer frankly was not at the level people assumed he was prior.

              The rest was all hopelessly past prime.

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              • joe strong
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                #57
                Not a Floyd fan at all! Actually when I did watch smaller weight classes I despised him after the Gatti fight but nobody could touch him. He was the best hands down. Not Pacman it was Floyd. I hated Roy Jones but as soon as Jones beat Ruiz he should have retired because he was all reflexes & as soon as he lost some speed he started getting hit hard. Floyd never really declined rapidly because of his defensive skills. Looking back Floyd made some pretty great fighters seem ordinary. Crawford will be forgotten long before Floyd. Crawford doesn’t have the resume but he is a hall of famer without a doubt…

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  I've seen a lot of comparisons and its mostly an attempt to claim Bud is greater/better than Floyd.

                  You get a lot discrediting Floyds best wins - Which is fair even his most diehard fans will tell you so & so wasn't at their best and such. There is also a lot of emphasis always on Floyd how he didn't beat a prime ATG, again fair criticism, you can make that case.
                  But what I ask is this, apply the same view to Crawfords resume.

                  Look at his resume and just be honest with yourself, was these guys prime or even close to it?
                  The only one that was really, Postol who while a decent boxer frankly was not at the level people assumed he was prior.

                  The rest was all hopelessly past prime.
                  I would somewhat agree. The difference is, Floyd took easier fights as he aged, but he did fight some prime big names during his prime years. Prime Crawford couldn't get the big-name fights under Arum and simply stayed with him too long. Now at nearly 38, he's trying to make up for lost time and missed big $$$.

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                  • SouthpawRight
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by joe strong
                    Not a Floyd fan at all! Actually when I did watch smaller weight classes I despised him after the Gatti fight but nobody could touch him. He was the best hands down. Not Pacman it was Floyd. I hated Roy Jones but as soon as Jones beat Ruiz he should have retired because he was all reflexes & as soon as he lost some speed he started getting hit hard. Floyd never really declined rapidly because of his defensive skills. Looking back Floyd made some pretty great fighters seem ordinary. Crawford will be forgotten long before Floyd. Crawford doesn’t have the resume but he is a hall of famer without a doubt…
                    greatest defender ever

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                    • TheIronMike
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Gate keeper
                      What everyone seems to be forgetting is that Crawford's resume is also more honest and he should get more points for that. If memory serves me, Mayweather never went for undisputed anything and rarely ever even tried to unify titles or fight mandatories. That's cause he cherry picked to death. Crawford said I'm going for undisputed. I don't care who has those titles or how in their prime they are, I'm coming after them. That's harder to do. There will always be unpredictable wild card fighters who can make you look bad or get an upset no matter what their record.

                      That's why fighters avoid doing so when they become a name. Notice Canelo also generally avoided mandatories, until 168 where they were incredibly weak, and also avoided undisputed at 154 abs 160. Crawford is a true champion, no catch weight or A side bs or a favorite referee that's going to let you hold all night. Face it, Crawford is more of an old school purist type of champion where as Mayweather is more of a cosmetic marketing gimmick Don King type champion.
                      You are genuinely wrong then. Mayweather signed a fight for undisputed at 147. Judah unfortunately lost to Baldomir and acrewed it up.

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