Comments Thread For: Size and sighs: Terence Crawford provides yet more evidence that bigger does not equal better

[Get em up]

Bud needs to fight benavides or bivol to really show size don't matter. Because Nel o and bud too similar in dimensions. Bud just left it late to.move up because of cautiousness. Even Nel o was cautious moving up.

So Bud should go up to 175 now to prove himself? Hell why not skip the bull**** and jump up to fight Usyk? The dude literally went up 2 weight classes and beat the man at 168 and made it look easy why not give the guy his credit.

[hugh grant]

So Bud should go up to 175 now to prove himself? Hell why not skip the bull**** and jump up to fight Usyk? The dude literally went up 2 weight classes and beat the man at 168 and made it look easy why not give the guy his credit.

But Nel o and bud too similar dimensions, buds mentioned it too.. Bud hasn't proved anything we didn't know already In that you can.move up divisions. It's a case of where your ceiling is..But

If you didn't know who Nel o and bud were and just watched fight, you'd think you were watching 2 guys same size.
Benavides does actually look visually bigger.

[Get em up]

But Nel o and bud too similar dimensions, buds mentioned it too.. Bud hasn't proved anything we didn't know already In that you can.move up divisions. It's a case of where your ceiling is..But

If you didn't know who Nel o and bud were and just watched fight, you'd think you were watching 2 guys same size.
Benavides does actually look visually bigger.

Can you name a fighter that started at 135 and moved up to 168 winning titles all the way through? Much less going all the way to 175. Oh by the way he has been undisputed at 140, 147, and now 168. Don't seem like there is a lot left to prove.

[STREET CLEANER]

Bud had a lot of things going against him, he was no active enough, his 154 fight he did not look great, is older and went up all those weight classes without taking an interim fight. All indicators that he might not do well in such a fight but proved me wrong. Adding all that muscle and weight did not disrupt his speed, timing or stamina which it usually does.

Also there was that chance that he had overtrained for the fight but that never materialized.

[joseph5620]

With Crawford adding a lot of muscle in the year since his last fight, can he not become as strong and big as Canelo when they have the same height? People were talking about Canelo being this massive guy, but he is quite a small guy that himself has gone up in weight-classes, and a bit to far, as seen when he was dominated by Bivol (and by Kovalev for most of their fight). Canelo is naturally a 160lb fighter at max.

Hell no he wasn't. Crawford moved up two divisions to fight Canelo. Adding weight doesn't change the fact that he was the fighter moving up a massive amount of weight. Canelo wasn't the fighter moving up for this fight. He had all of the advantages in terms of size. Not Crawford. Stop trying to spin this is if the size advantages were equal. They were not and no amount of spin is going to change the fact that Crawford moved up two divisions and won. This wasn't a case of two equally sized super middleweights fighting.

You're clearly just trying to make excuses for Canelo because a former lightweight champion beat him.

[The D3vil]

"Weight class exist for a reason" is damn true.


But you have to put things into context.

1. Canelo is a small 168 pounder while Bud was huge in the lower weight classes.

Canelo has been at some point in his career a welterweight, and quite for a while a champion at 154.
He's not a natural 168 pounder like let's say Andre WARD, let alone a big 168 pounder like Morell or Benavidez.

I only disagree with this point.

Bud was not "huge" in lower weight classes.

He's 5'8".

There's plenty of bigger 140, 147, & 154lb guys than Bud Crawford.

Hes' not like Tommy Hearns or something.

The only thing that he has going for him size wise is a massive reach

[The D3vil]

A lot of us old school boxing fans have been talking about this for years.

Joe Louis, Mike Tyson, Joe Frazier, & Evander Holyfield would destroy a lot of "good big men" in this era.

[BillyBoxing]

I only disagree with this point.

Bud was not "huge" in lower weight classes.

He's 5'8".

There's plenty of bigger 140, 147, & 154lb guys than Bud Crawford.

Hes' not like Tommy Hearns or something.

The only thing that he has going for him size wise is a massive reach

Of course, but same goes for Canelo.
I didn't mean Bud is some big beast like Tommy HEARNS.
But Bud felt himself that he was bigger than Nelo.

Like I said, Canelo ain't no natural big 168 pounders like Benavidez.
Bud said himself in an interview with that UFC dude he picked Nelo cuz he sized him up and and that he would not pick Benavidez because was too big.

See Madrimov vs Bud and Nelo vs Bud.
Madrimov looked bigger than Nelo.

Bud was longer than Canelo and Canelo could not push him around.

But don't get me wrong, Bud beat him with his superior skillset.
But I'm not really buying the scenario that Bud was a giant slayer in that fight, Nelo being the giant.

The thing is Canelo is a skilled fighter that hits like a mule when he can plant his feet, wich allow him to ruin bigger dudes like Plant (who survived 12 rounds vs Benavidez), Smith, Saunders, Kovalev.
But if you have the footwork and timing to not let him get his distance and plant his feet he becomes an average fighter and get b!tchslapped lol

[OffTheBack]

But Bud is bigger than Canelo. Bud just never moved up and was a weight bully for years. The fact that Bud used to fight at 135.

[GhostofDempsey]

What no one talks about is that Crawford walks around well over 180 pounds. He had to drain himself down nearly 35 pounds or more to make 147. He only needed to lose 12-15 pounds to make 168. He spars with heavyweights. He was always a very large welter and below. He's getting too old to drain himself down below 160 now. Aside from that, he is just a better overall boxer than Canelo. Something the PBC worshippers could never bring themselves to understand. Even after he whooped their hero Spence.