Does Terence Crawford have a case to be the GOAT?

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  • drablj
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    #31
    crawford is 42-0 at 38. he is not, and nobody ever will be, better than a fighter who died at 32 with 300 fights. a fighter who had a 45-0 YEAR with TEN (10) hall of fame wins. his 1 year is better than whole careers of everybody below ~top20 all time.
    so, no. crawford is not the best of all time. he's a veritable all time great for sure with a fun style to watch. it was a pleasure to watch him from 2014 to this day.
    and to everybody in the future, compare a modern boxer to ray leonard who is #10. he's the only inactive one who basically nobody disputes is a top10 ever. when some boxer accomplish wins on the level of duran, benitez, hearns (insane welterweight era), kalule, hagler and lalonde, we can talk. i think if crawford beats bivol next year, it still wouldn't be better than leonard. there are simply not enough greats to beat and build your resume in this century because they are very inactive and matchmaking is trash. it's not because modern fighters are not talented.

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    • daggum
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      I 100% agree with that.

      But like Floyd, I can’t hold it against him that the big name contemporaries refused to fight him until later in his career.
      people ducked floyd..........it just never ends. he had all all the power in boxing but he didnt want to make them. crawford and floyd are not analogous at all. crawford never had a-side power like floyd. crawford was at the whim of other fighters. floyd could have had any fight in boxing but chose not to make them because thats what the facts show.

      floyd says he will fight cotto just give him 20 million guaranteed for hoya as part of the deal...thats called pricing yourself out. he will fight margarito just give him 20 million guaranteed as part of the deal...thats called pricing yourself out. we know he priced himself out because drum roll....he fought hoya for 10 million guaranteed when cotto and marg werent part of the deal! why did he go crazy and ask for impossible things then change his mind? because he knew it would kill the fights. oh yeah and he fought sharmba mitchell for 3 million instead of marg for 7. oops.

      ll fight pac just agree to a 14 day cutoff, i mean a 0 day cut off, i mean pac only gets 40 million no ppv...thats called pricing yourself out and getting caught bluffing. its about the testing! no its about the money! do you know what credibility is? he has none. when you say something then dont follow through, that exposes you as a liar and a fraud. remember these are floyds own demands and he couldnt follow through on them.
      Last edited by daggum; 09-15-2025, 10:44 AM.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #33
        Originally posted by daggum

        people ducked floyd..........it just never ends. he had all all the power in boxing but he didnt want to make them. crawford and floyd are not analogous at all. crawford never had a-side power like floyd. crawford was at the whim of other fighters. floyd could have had any fight in boxing but chose not to make them because thats what the facts show.

        floyd says he will fight cotto just give him 20 million guaranteed for hoya as part of the deal...thats called pricing yourself out. he will fight margarito just give him 20 million guaranteed as part of the deal...thats called pricing yourself out. we know he priced himself out because drum roll....he fought hoya for 10 million guaranteed when cotto and marg werent part of the deal! why did he go crazy and ask for impossible things then change his mind? because he knew it would kill the fights. oh yeah and he fought sharmba mitchell for 3 million instead of marg for 7. oops.

        ll fight pac just agree to a 14 day cutoff, i mean a 0 day cut off, i mean pac only gets 40 million no ppv...thats called pricing yourself out and getting caught bluffing. its about the testing! no its about the money! do you know what credibility is? he has none. when you say something then dont follow through. that exposes you as a liar and a fraud. remember these are floyds own demands and he couldnt follow through on them.
        Go away daggum.

        If you can’t admit Floyd was avoided prior to his beating ODH and becoming the cash cow, there is no point in discussing.

        Crawford was avoided the same way. Crawford just got the fight that puts him in position to be the a side and call all the shots like Floyd did after he beat ODH.

        I’m not holding that against either of them. If either of them were from a Northern European or Russian backed country, you’d say same.

        But because they are black Americans you don’t.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-15-2025, 10:47 AM.

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