Can Bud beat Iglesias or Sheerez?

[Malvado]

Yeah and that was the main reason why I thought he would lose to Canelo, a much more natural 168-pounder. Bud had trouble with Gamboa early on, yet managed to handle Alvarez surprisingly well. Yuri was insanely fast back then, but still. Now, Crawford has said himself that he considers Benavidez a bit too much because of his size. He said in an interview that a guy like that (and presumably Iglesias, Morrell, Sheeraz, et al) can rehydrate to 190 and beyond. He would be fighting a heavyweight in some cases.

Still is shocking that nonetheless that someone who is more of a natural Super Featherweight had caught Crawford him the way he did. Gamboa had the traits and stylistic style to pose challenges as he has a pressuring style complimented with athleticism and high output compared to a low output counter puncher fighting a refined boxer puncher. But that's still a 33 pound weight class difference.

Me Personally, I thought Mean Machine Kavaliauskas was like a smaller and less skilled heavy handed counter puncher compared to Alvarez. Who Crawford had commented in the post fight conference that he felt that Lithuanian actually more heavy handed and was more of a threat.

Think that due to style, dimensions, innate traits and milage, fighting Crawford is just a bad match up for Saul, even if he was younger, he just might do a tad better but he wouldn't win against the 38 year old Crawford quite less a younger Crawford who would attempt to acclimate at 168. So I understand why Terrance took this challenge jumping up 2-3 weight classes, but if it came with the naturally larger prime fignters of 168-175 that aren't as much of a stylistic and milage disadvantage, he have to quite think about it. As like any other he has his limits.

[NihonJim]

Yeah and that was the main reason why I thought he would lose to Canelo, a much more natural 168-pounder. Bud had trouble with Gamboa early on, yet managed to handle Alvarez surprisingly well. Yuri was insanely fast back then, but still. Now, Crawford has said himself that he considers Benavidez a bit too much because of his size. He said in an interview that a guy like that (and presumably Iglesias, Morrell, Sheeraz, et al) can rehydrate to 190 and beyond. He would be fighting a heavyweight in some cases.

Canelo not a 168lb fighter.

He's 5 foot 7 pumped full of roids.


During the last great era of super middleweight when we had guys like Andre Ward, Carl Froch, Mikel Kessler, I remember Arthur Abraham, a guy who actually bears an astounding stylistic resemblance to Canelo, only he was bigger than Canelo and punched harder and he really couldn't do anything at 168.

Canelo is a roided up 154lb guy who's been moonlighting in higher divisions that are a barren wasteland, didn't he win a title off Rocky Fielding .

Glad Bud ended the sideshow

[CubanGuyNYC]

Still is shocking that nonetheless that someone who is more of a natural Super Featherweight had caught Crawford him the way he did. Gamboa had the traits and stylistic style to pose challenges as he has a pressuring style complimented with athleticism and high output compared to a low output counter puncher fighting a refined boxer puncher. But that's still a 33 pound weight class difference.

Me Personally, I thought Mean Machine Kavaliauskas was like a smaller and less skilled heavy handed counter puncher compared to Alvarez. Who Crawford had commented in the post fight conference that he felt that Lithuanian actually more heavy handed and was more of a threat.

Think that due to style, dimensions, innate traits and milage, fighting Crawford is just a bad match up for Saul, even if he was younger, he just might do a tad better but he wouldn't win against the 38 year old Crawford quite less a younger Crawford who would attempt to acclimate at 168. So I understand why Terrance took this challenge jumping up 2-3 weight classes, but if it came with the naturally larger prime fignters of 168-175 that aren't as much of a stylistic and milage disadvantage, he have to quite think about it. As like any other he has his limits.

Yeah, Bud was much smarter about challenging Canelo than I thought. It wasn’t just a money-grab; Crawford knew what he was looking at. Going after bigger fish — literally — doesn’t appeal to him. At 38 years-old, he has very few fights left in him. It’ll be interesting to see where Bud goes from here.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Canelo not a 168lb fighter.

He's 5 foot 7 pumped full of roids.


During the last great era of super middleweight when we had guys like Andre Ward, Carl Froch, Mikel Kessler, I remember Arthur Abraham, a guy who actually bears an astounding stylistic resemblance to Canelo, only he was bigger than Canelo and punched harder and he really couldn't do anything at 168.

Canelo is a roided up 154lb guy who's been moonlighting in higher divisions that are a barren wasteland, didn't he win a title off Rocky Fielding .

Glad Bud ended the sideshow

I don’t disagree. But in a head-to-head match-up Alvarez is a much more natural fit with 168 than Crawford, who started his career at 135.

[STREET CLEANER]

There is always going to be a size issue at that weight. Crawford said in an interview that he wanted Canelo because he wasn't a big guy.

[SouthpawRight]

There is always going to be a size issue at that weight. Crawford said in an interview that he wanted Canelo because he wasn't a big guy.

Osleys is 6 ft 2

there's a difference between 154 pounder buffing his way to 168 and a NATURAL 168 pounder. People must have forgot 154 Madrimov being a handful for TBud

realistically T maxes out at middleweight. That's why Turki offered Benavidez a T fight at 160

[JakeTheBoxer]

That is a legit question.

Is Crawford now relevant at 168 or was it just all about Canelo being a fake champion?