TBud Has Best Win Over Saul

[Gary Coleman]

You’re missing the point, a lot of fighters have been giving up weight on fight night, but to actually moved almost 3 weight classes and win??? With this level of quality win? Who actually did it? From welterweight to super middle? Nobody.
from welterweight to middleweight? Ray leonard. That’s about it.. that’s what u dont get..

Even nelo was giving up 15lbs against many super middles lol.

Nahhh a lot have been choosing bud but it wasn’t majority.. who u trying to fool lol they asked like their last 10 opponents and it was almost a tie u acting like you’re talking to someone who doesn’t watch interviews or follow the sport lol

I like how it's "3 weight classes" now.

And it was the majority.

I called it a great win, but that doesn't seem to be good enough you.

Duran moving up to beat Leonard and Leonard moving up after a years long layoff to beat Hagler are better wins to me. (Quality of opponent)

It doesn't diminish Crawford's win. It is what it is.

[Carpe Diem]

Great win and performance by Crawford, I had him winning 8-4. 3x undisputed is nothing short of amazing. Salute to Crawford, he proved me wrong with this fight.

[SouthpawRight]

Great win and performance by Crawford, I had him winning 8-4. 3x undisputed is nothing short of amazing. Salute to Crawford, he proved me wrong with this fight.

We can no longer troll about him being Terence TBE Bud Crawford

[Carpe Diem]

We can no longer troll about him being Terence TBE Bud Crawford

Yeah. Lol

[mannyman]

For me Bud's win is more impressive

A jump in 2 weights classes, no catch weight, no rehydration clause
Mayweather fought a catchweight 152/rehydration clause and Bivol was the bigger man.

Canelo's at the tail end of his career but he's still close to prime and a certified ATG at this point - Bud's also no spring chicken.
Mayweather thought a young hungry version of Canelo but not prime, Bivol thought a closer to prime version imo.

Bud outboxed Canelo, ate Canelo's shots and at time's hurt him
Mayweather outboxed Canelo, Bivol overpowered Canelo - Bud did both

He won the undisputed/lineal crown from Canelo, not just a titles
(Mayweather won the WBA/WBC, Bivol WBA)

[SouthpawRight]

For me Bud's win is more impressive

A jump in 2 weights classes, no catch weight, no rehydration clause
Mayweather fought a catchweight 152/rehydration clause and Bivol was the bigger man.

Canelo's at the tail end of his career but he's still close to prime and a certified ATG at this point - Bud's also no spring chicken.
Mayweather thought a young hungry version of Canelo but not prime, Bivol thought a closer to prime version imo.

Bud outboxed Canelo, ate Canelo's shots and at time's hurt him
Mayweather outboxed Canelo, Bivol overpowered Canelo - Bud did both

He won the undisputed/lineal crown from Canelo, not just a titles
(Mayweather won the WBA/WBC, Bivol WBA)

Prime Saul was from golovkin2 to jermell with Billy Joe being Saul's absolute peak

Top Soviet Bivol definitely caught a Prime Saul

I thought Floyd's Green Saul looked better than the Past Prime Saul last night fighting TBud

[davef]

Floyd's was better for me and Bivol and Bud about the same.

Floyd literally whitewashed him and toyed with him for 12 rounds

Bud did something pretty impressive moving up to that weight and not being affected by anything Canelo landed and earned Nelos respect when he landed himself so he deserves the credit

But Floyd's was a master class of boxing for the purists

[dibzvincent143]

I like how it's "3 weight classes" now.

And it was the majority.

I called it a great win, but that doesn't seem to be good enough you.

Duran moving up to beat Leonard and Leonard moving up after a years long layoff to beat Hagler are better wins to me. (Quality of opponent)

It doesn't diminish Crawford's win. It is what it is.

Yeah Tarver, and Max Kellerman also called it "almost 3 weight classes" since he just had a pitstop at 154lbs... but I guess we're all ****** and you not getting the word "almost" #FacePalm
I should have realize you're just arguing to argue.. but don't seem to see various points presented. Anyway good day... first it was Floyd's 152lb win over nelo coz he was outweighed... now Duran moving up to beat Leonard... whom according to your standards should be diminished as well since Duran's natural weight is 160lbs lol. which really is it. and nope he didn't jump straight to welterweight he already acclimated there..

those examples were made too make a point that they were only a handful successful ones, but still you don't get the point.. I didn't mean to say there lesser or greater in any way.

go on and move the goalpost somewhere.

[SouthpawRight]

Floyd's was better for me and Bivol and Bud about the same.

Floyd literally whitewashed him and toyed with him for 12 rounds

Bud did something pretty impressive moving up to that weight and not being affected by anything Canelo landed and earned Nelos respect when he landed himself so he deserves the credit

But Floyd's was a master class of boxing for the purists

I need to rewatch Saul-TBud later

Floyd 11-1'd Saul and gave away the 12th because he swept every other round and dgaf

TBud won about 9 rounds maybe it was 10 or 8

[elfag]

Floyd was already a champ at 154lbs way back in 2007 and still asked for a catchweight lool so no... at full blast 154lbs he would have been given huge credit instead he still chose to put an asterisk to that win... though I believe he'd toyed nelo at any weight during that time. that was his own doing..

a lot of fighters get outweighed on fight night, that's common occurence.

while bud jumped almost 3 weight classes to fight Nelo, the risk of getting KOed was there... while Floyd took little risk.. it's like asking him to fight ward at that point.. Would Floyd fight ward? when he was at 147lbs? hell na

Floyd was 150

Canelo was 165


Theres no way that Canelo weighed 15 pounds more than Crawford. Crawford has openly bragged how he gets into the 180s