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  • SouthpawRight
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    #31
    Originally posted by elfag



    Floyd was 150

    Canelo was 165


    Theres no way that Canelo weighed 15 pounds more than Crawford. Crawford has openly bragged how he gets into the 180s
    Saul was 180 on the night of VS Bivol

    max 185 when he fought TBud

    TBud shared a photo of a scale weighing him 18X

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    • El_Mero
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      #32
      Originally posted by 786
      I think Bivol and arguably Floyd beat better versions of Canelo more comfortably. Bud definitely gets points for moving up two weight classes but the size difference wasn't that significant in the end and Crawford fought a well past prime version of Alvarez. Still a great win.
      Bivol definitely did. Fmj had weight restriction vs a green Ginger

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        #33
        Originally posted by dibzvincent143

        Yeah Tarver, and Max Kellerman also called it "almost 3 weight classes" since he just had a pitstop at 154lbs... but I guess we're all ****** and you not getting the word "almost" #FacePalm
        I should have realize you're just arguing to argue.. but don't seem to see various points presented. Anyway good day... first it was Floyd's 152lb win over nelo coz he was outweighed... now Duran moving up to beat Leonard... whom according to your standards should be diminished as well since Duran's natural weight is 160lbs lol. which really is it. and nope he didn't jump straight to welterweight he already acclimated there..

        those examples were made too make a point that they were only a handful successful ones, but still you don't get the point.. I didn't mean to say there lesser or greater in any way.

        go on and move the goalpost somewhere.
        Duran was 160 fighting at lightweight? Ok.

        I told you already that Crawford's win was impressive. I don't know what you don't get?

        You're so upset about the fighting weight comment, which is accurate. Out of Bomac's own mouth, since you're so up to date.

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          #34
          Originally posted by elfag



          Floyd was 150

          Canelo was 165


          Theres no way that Canelo weighed 15 pounds more than Crawford. Crawford has openly bragged how he gets into the 180s
          - One was a catchweight at 152lbs eventhough floyd has been a champ at 154lbs twice

          - Crawford can go to 180 on his vacation days, he’s still a 147lber champ, and he still jumped 2 weight classes to pull this off.. can you imagine floyd jumping to 168 for ward? lol

          - natural weight ain’t the basis of what’s your best weight in boxing at all lol… plenty of fighters ballooned up during layoffs doesn’t mean they should fight at heavyweight wtf

          - i’d put my money canelo today KO’s that 23 year old version of him lol

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            #35
            Originally posted by Gary Coleman

            Duran was 160 fighting at lightweight? Ok.

            I told you already that Crawford's win was impressive. I don't know what you don't get?

            You're so upset about the fighting weight comment, which is accurate. Out of Bomac's own mouth, since you're so up to date.
            oh you didn’t know this? I thought u’re so obsessed with walk around weights lol. Duran balloons during vacations with all his parties and whatnot which Leonard took advantage off when he asked for the immediate rematch… i guess duran’s dare for greatness at 160lbs shouldn’t be praised since that’s just his walking weight looool (all according to your logic)

            not upset at all. Just proving your points ridiculous

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              #36
              Originally posted by dibzvincent143

              oh you didn’t know this? I thought u’re so obsessed with walk around weights lol. Duran balloons during vacations with all his parties and whatnot which Leonard took advantage off when he asked for the immediate rematch… i guess duran’s dare for greatness at 160lbs shouldn’t be praised since that’s just his walking weight looool (all according to your logic)

              not upset at all. Just proving your points ridiculous
              If we're talking Ricky Hatton-esque "ballooning" that's entirely different. That's just unhealthy living.

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                #37
                I think Tbud had the better win of the other two. Mayweather got him where he didn't look as dominant as he has in RECENT years. I know some people think he was too young or green despite having over 40 wins and against some named opponents (including one Mayweather fought), though Canelo looked just young and not sure of himself in there yet. Then Bivol, I'd easily use the weight class as a valid excuse for him. Bivol was Canelo reaching his weight class limits and really didn't belong there. I would even scratch that loss off his record because it was meaningless.

                Sure, Tbud had a fight on his hands where Fraud and Bivol didn't as much, but that's because you were seeing Canelo at his best weight probably and all the experience and knowledge of his fights come together. He looked confident in their despite losing the majority of the rounds and eventually showing some frustration. Though for the most part, he kept trying and you felt he could have been 1 punch away from landing to drop Tbud at anytime.

                Tbud coming up 2-3 divisions to face Canelo without testing the water there and not requiring any hydration clause and matching punch for punch is more impressive in my eyes.

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                  #38
                  Floyd fought the hungry and arrogant version of Canelo who wanted to be top dog. Canelo showed him no respect before or during the fight. Crawford fought the more experienced and civilized version of Canelo. Crawford got the better win based on the history behind it, but Floyd’s performance was more virtuoso.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ELPacman
                    I think Tbud had the better win of the other two. Mayweather got him where he didn't look as dominant as he has in RECENT years. I know some people think he was too young or green despite having over 40 wins and against some named opponents (including one Mayweather fought), though Canelo looked just young and not sure of himself in there yet. Then Bivol, I'd easily use the weight class as a valid excuse for him. Bivol was Canelo reaching his weight class limits and really didn't belong there. I would even scratch that loss off his record because it was meaningless.

                    Sure, Tbud had a fight on his hands where Fraud and Bivol didn't as much, but that's because you were seeing Canelo at his best weight probably and all the experience and knowledge of his fights come together. He looked confident in their despite losing the majority of the rounds and eventually showing some frustration. Though for the most part, he kept trying and you felt he could have been 1 punch away from landing to drop Tbud at anytime.

                    Tbud coming up 2-3 divisions to face Canelo without testing the water there and not requiring any hydration clause and matching punch for punch is more impressive in my eyes.
                    Canelo didn’t look young against Floyd. He just got outclassed by a much better boxer, a man smaller than him and significantly older.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                      Floyd fought the hungry and arrogant version of Canelo who wanted to be top dog. Canelo showed him no respect before or during the fight. Crawford fought the more experienced and civilized version of Canelo. Crawford got the better win based on the history behind it, but Floyd’s performance was more virtuoso.
                      Solid post.

                      The problem is so many claimed Canelo was past it before the fight as a way to preemptively take away should Crawford win.

                      That is so weak.

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