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  • SouthpawRight
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    TBud New H2H Master Like Sugar Leonard and Floyd

    Kings of adjustments and each have that rare extra gear to turn it up and get the win in close fights
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    Stoopid of you to include Floyd. Floyd don’t belong there with his catchweights IVs and hometown judges.
    Last edited by RadChang; 09-14-2025, 06:45 AM.

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      I like Floyd and Leonard, and they might beat bud h2h, or not.... but this was something else... I don't think anyone rose at least almost 3 weight classes to beat the man in that weight class. Floyd never took anything close to that risk... Leonard against hagler was 2 divisions jumped but it was a close one -- though I thought he won.

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        #4
        Originally posted by dibzvincent143
        I like Floyd and Leonard, and they might beat bud h2h, or not.... but this was something else... I don't think anyone rose at least almost 3 weight classes to beat the man in that weight class. Floyd never took anything close to that risk... Leonard against hagler was 2 divisions jumped but it was a close one -- though I thought he won.
        TBud vs Sugar Leonard or Hearns is a “fairer” h2h

        TBud was buff enough for 168

        Floyd is better matched against the smaller king closer to his size Roberto

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          #5
          Originally posted by dibzvincent143
          I like Floyd and Leonard, and they might beat bud h2h, or not.... but this was something else... I don't think anyone rose at least almost 3 weight classes to beat the man in that weight class. Floyd never took anything close to that risk... Leonard against hagler was 2 divisions jumped but it was a close one -- though I thought he won.
          Look at it this way. Floyd fought at or near his natural weight. 168 is at or near Bud's natural weight.

          Any of Floyd's exploits at 154 was essentially the same thing figuring weight.

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            #6
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            TBud vs Sugar Leonard or Hearns is a “fairer” h2h

            TBud was buff enough for 168

            Floyd is better matched against the smaller king closer to his size Roberto
            ChatGPT gave me excellent breakdowns for all of the above Crawford dream fight scenarios. He was the underdog vs all 3 (Leonard/Hearns/May), but had scenarios where Crawford could win all 3 as well.

            Some highlights:

            Said if Floyd and Bud fought 10 times, Floyd would win 6. (I thought that was fair)

            Had Leonard squeaking out a barn-burner at 147.

            Had Hearns sparking Bud inside of 6 rounds at 154.

            *Nobody should use ChatGPT. They''re in bed with Palantir. There is other fully capable AI software out there*
            Last edited by Gary Coleman; 09-14-2025, 04:29 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight
              TBud vs Sugar Leonard or Hearns is a “fairer” h2h

              TBud was buff enough for 168

              Floyd is better matched against the smaller king closer to his size Roberto
              Nahhh i believe floyd could hold his own and win against 147lbs sugar ray… and would frustrate Duran same way leonard did… but that’s just me.

              hearns would be the most difficult for him stylistically

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                #8
                Originally posted by Gary Coleman

                Look at it this way. Floyd fought at or near his natural weight. 168 is at or near Bud's natural weight.

                Any of Floyd's exploits at 154 was essentially the same thing figuring weight.
                What’s up with you and natural weight, like it’s supposed to be the basis of boxing’s actual weight classes…

                well news flash it is not! Roy Jones was walking around 190-200lbs maybe he doesn’t deserve all the credit he got for fighting at heavyweight since that’s just his walkaround weight wtffff

                maybe pacquiao shouldn’t be originally praised for facing Dlh at 147 jumping 2 weight classes where he is clearly the smaller dude since that’s just his walk around weight like wtf

                maybe duran shouldn’t get credit for jumping weight classes and beat Leonard at welterweight since his walking around weight is 160lbs wtf!!

                or mostley shouldnt get credit for jumping weight classes to beat delahoya since its also his natural weight wttffff

                i could go on all night about ur natural weight

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dibzvincent143

                  What’s up with you and natural weight, like it’s supposed to be the basis of boxing’s actual weight classes…

                  well news flash it is not! Roy Jones was walking around 190-200lbs maybe he doesn’t deserve all the credit he got for fighting at heavyweight since that’s just his walkaround weight wtffff

                  maybe pacquiao shouldn’t be originally praised for facing Dlh at 147 jumping 2 weight classes where he is clearly the smaller dude since that’s just his walk around weight like wtf

                  maybe duran shouldn’t get credit for jumping weight classes and beat Leonard at welterweight since his walking around weight is 160lbs wtf!!

                  or mostley shouldnt get credit for jumping weight classes to beat delahoya since its also his natural weight wttffff

                  i could go on all night about ur natural weight
                  YES! It should be the basis for weight classes, in my opinion. I'm heavily in favor of same-day weigh ins.

                  In fighting shape, Roy was 175-185lbs. That's what I consider "natural weight" for boxing, not your walk around weight.

                  That should help you going forward should you need any further assistance.
                  Last edited by Gary Coleman; 09-14-2025, 05:35 AM.

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                    Floyd's not in pac s and buds class. I wish people would stop mentioning Floyd's name.
                    Pac s 7 division champ, buds a 6 division guy
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-14-2025, 11:44 AM.

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