Comments Thread For: ?Perfect boxer Terence Crawford needs to avoid mid-to-close range?

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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #11
    Originally posted by Descartes

    Canelo was hurt by a real undersized Cotto brother that came from 130 to 154 to fight him just for the money.
    Yeah, but that was back in the Stone Age. Canelo was only 20 years-old. Our little ginger has come a long way since then. Crawford was already a highly touted fighter, twenty-six, still moving up in weight.

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    • elfag
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      #12
      Crawford is 38 and not going to change his style overnight

      Yes he SHOULD use his 74" reach to stay on the outside and out of caneloa t rex arms but that's never been his style he's always getting in mid range.and that's what gives cement feet canelo such a good chance of landing a big shot

      I see. So many people on YouTube comments and such calling canelo slow or one dimensional and they will be surprised when Crawford gets dropped and rattled with a big shot. Canelo has fast hands and he also mixes up his attacks, look at most of his knockdowns they are usually strategic and a thinking mans knockdown not just lucky.

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      • elfag
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        #13
        They talk like canelo is a caveman and not a high IQ fighter.

        Looking at his KOs and knockdowns I see things like:

        Saunders kept ducking real low to avoid the hooks so canelo started looking to time the upper cut missed a time or to then got it jackpot and broke his face.

        Another fight I forget who but guy had a high guard and was used to looking to block the hook and wide right hand, canelo noticed this and then threw his right to make it look like it was hooking but straighened it out and split the guard and dropped the guy.


        the more time bud spends in the pocket the more time he opens himself up to this. We seen him get tagged plenty of times

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        • champion4ever
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          #14
          Crawford is so versatile and flexible that he could fight either inside, outside or even mid-range. I just don't know whether Saul Alvarez still have it in him at this stage of his career anymore. What is left for him to prove?

          He has failed miserably in putting away overachieving, cherrypicked bum opponents like: Berlanga, Munguia, Ryder and even a washed out Golovkin the third time.

          So now we are supposed to believe he is going to either KO or defeat the crème de la crème of boxing Terence "Bud" Crawford and arguably the best Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport? No way! Canelo's time has passed.

          In any case, Terence Bud Crawford is defeating Saul "Canelo" Alvarez on Saturday night. Whether it be on points or by way of knockout. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if Canelo taps out or just retires on his stool.

          Not only do I believe that Crawford is the harder puncher of the two but he just may be the physically stronger of the two as well.

          Where I don't agree with coach Billy Nelson is Bud's performance against Israil Madrimov. Madrimov didn't come to fight or win that night. He just came to lay down and survive.

          Not once did he ever attempt to prove to the judges that he was trying to win the fight. No, he just refused to let his hands go or take any risks in that fight for fear of getting caught by one of Bud's lethal counters.

          Which is why he lost the fight. He was landing only single punches at a time the entire night.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ELPacman
            Crawford has the longer arms and height. He should use that effectively if he has a chance here. Though he got too much pride. You can see how he faces everyone in any challenge, whether ping pong, darts, whatever, lol. He's going to want to prove to the world just how good he is and knowing the amount of eyes on this fight, he's put in the extra work to do so. Remains to be seen!
            Excellent Point!

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            • SouthpawRight
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              #16
              TBud is an all terrain fighter who prefers midrange

              This isn't Floyd who prefers boxing on the outside for defense or even Bivol who juggles between long to midrange

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              • SteveM
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                #17
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC

                Sure. But Crawford is far from perfect. Excellent fighter, but if we were to get into that debate I’d call Floyd perfect instead. Bud was pushed pretty hard by an undersized Gamboa a number of years ago. I’ll never forget that.
                Well, you didn't come with the list, which is telling. As I said , no such thing as perfection so excellence is about the next level down. I'd put Floyd above Crawford. I don't think Manny was more skilled but he was more effective. Usyk isn't as skilled in a p4p sense as Crawford but at HW his skills stand out head and shoulders above the rest of the HWs. Off the top of my head I can't think of too many others who have Bud's resume but by the eye test Andy Cruz and Ennis are highly skilled.

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                • SteveM
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boxingitis

                  Floyd
                  Lomachenko
                  Usyk
                  Inoe

                  Crawford looks great vs B Level fighters. Khan, Brook, Porter were way passed their best.

                  If he would have stayed at 154 vs Bohachuk, Fundora, Ortiz, Charlo he wouldn't have looked that great (same as Loma at 135). How did he look vs the amateur Madrimov?
                  I agree with Floyd and Loma and possibly Inoue not so much Usyk - the Crawford that beat Spence would have given Floyd hell and beaten the brakes of a peak Thurman, Brook, Khan, and Porter. What most people don't realise is that a fighter's performance levels vary quite a lot between fights for various reasons. 154 is my favourite division for th elast ten years - extremely fun and competitive so its difficult to rule the roost although Charlo did it for a moment.

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                  • Grandma Lover
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    Crawford is so versatile and flexible that he could fight either inside, outside or even mid-range. I just don't know whether Saul Alvarez still have it in him at this stage of his career anymore. What is left for him to prove?

                    He has failed miserably in putting away overachieving, cherrypicked bum opponents like: Berlanga, Munguia, Ryder and even a washed out Golovkin the third time.

                    So now we are supposed to believe he is going to either KO or defeat the crème de la crème of boxing Terence "Bud" Crawford and arguably the best Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport? No way! Canelo's time has passed.

                    In any case, Terence Bud Crawford is defeating Saul "Canelo" Alvarez on Saturday night. Whether it be on points or by way of knockout. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if Canelo taps out or just retires on his stool.

                    Not only do I believe that Crawford is the harder puncher of the two but he just may be the physically stronger of the two as well.

                    Where I don't agree with coach Billy Nelson is Bud's performance against Israil Madrimov. Madrimov didn't come to fight or win that night. He just came to lay down and survive.

                    Not once did he ever attempt to prove to the judges that he was trying to win the fight. No, he just refused to let his hands go or take any risks in that fight for fear of getting caught by one of Bud's lethal counters.

                    Which is why he lost the fight. He was landing only single punches at a time the entire night.
                    I'm gonna enjoy this.

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