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  • HisExcellency
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    #51
    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC

    Haha Funny you noticed that. Even I laughed as I did it. No offense to David, he’s still my dude, but his image was up there long enough. Time for a change. Lol

    I don’t think anyone is keen on having their fighter run up against Iglesias, especially after that last performance. Shishkin lasted as long as he did because he’s a very tough man. Who wants any of that s hit? As fans we want the great matchups, but these days fighters and their managers are hard to convince. People want to make money — and preferably without getting sent to the hospital in the process. Lol
    Haha you tried to be sneaky but I clocked it...yeah Shishkin displayed the heart of a lion because he was getting hit with BOMBS left, right and center all night. Will definitely be keeping tabs on Iglesias as I wasn't expecting him to be THAT nice...he looked just as good as Mbilli & Sheeraz who I rate very highly. Therefore, the REAL question is who has the best chin? Time will tell.

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      #52
      Originally posted by garfios

      Tell canelo to vacate the belts and you will see the young bucks fighting for supremacy. Open your eyes and admit that canelo/wbc/wba/who are the problem, not the kids waiting for their turn.
      Sheeraz, Mbilli, Pacheco, Iglesias, Resendiz.

      Canelo can’t fight all of them. Why don’t some of them fight each other? Why don’t you want that?

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        #53
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Sheeraz, Mbilli, Pacheco, Iglesias, Resendiz.

        Canelo can’t fight all of them. Why don’t some of them fight each other? Why don’t you want that?
        So you want them to cancel each other out while the ballless canelo keep the belts hostage? Why they don't strip the culprit and l let the youngsters fight for it? Osley already did, he fought Shiskin which by all accounts has beating Scull, what did he won? Benavidez and Morrell Jr have to move up in weight because were waiting 2 and 3 years respectively and canelo never looked their way. I have a question for you. Why didn't canelo pick between Mbilli, Sheeraz and Iglesias and fight one them? He doesn't need to fight each and every one of them at the same time, he could have fought Mbilli instead of Berlanga, or Morrell Jr instead of Ryder, or Benavidez instead Munguia. You see, who's fault is it? Please, if you going to reply don’t beat around the bush giving some illogical thoughts, give me a straight answer, do you think Canelo should have fought one or two of those guys? And since he didn't do it, do the fans have a right to be p$$off with canelo and his godfather Sulaiman?
        Last edited by garfios; 09-08-2025, 07:35 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by garfios

          So you want them to cancel each other out while the ballless canelo keep the belts hostage? Why they don't strip the culprit and l let the youngsters fight for it? Osley already did, he fought Shiskin which by all accounts has beating Scull, what did he won? Benavidez and Morrell Jr have to move up in weight because were waiting 2 and 3 years respectively and canelo never looked their way. I have a question for you. Why didn't canelo pick between Mbilli, Sheeraz and Iglesias and fight one them? He doesn't need to fight each and every one of them at the same time, he could have fought Mbilli instead of Berlanga, or Morrell Jr instead of Ryder, or Benavidez instead Munguia. You see, whose is fault is it? Please, if you going to reply don’t beat around the bush giving some illogical thoughts, give me a straight answer, do you think Canelo should have fought one or two of those guys? And since he didn't do it, do the fans have a right to be p$$off with canelo and his godfather Sulaiman?
          Canelo has made his bones already and has one of the best resumes in the entire sport. He can fight who he wants at this point.

          The youngsters need to build their legacy and they can do that by fighting each other. Not by sitting around waiting for Canelo.


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            #55
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Canelo has made his bones already and has one of the best resumes in the entire sport. He can fight who he wants at this point.

            The youngsters need to build their legacy and they can do that by fighting each other. Not by sitting around waiting for Canelo.

            Again, that is not a straight answer, beside, you make your bones in order to fight for the belts, not the other way around, once you make it to champion you don't hide behind them, you're "obligated " (canel is doing whatever the fvk he wants)by rules, regulations and honor(legacy), to defend it against the most qualified opponents, the ones that are making the bones. Your logic is BS and you know it. You don't have a straight answer because you whole beliefs in Canelo will be crashing down, that's why you're coming with all this nonsense, that he made his bones and he can do whatever he wants, do you know that canelo is the only champion to claim he doesn't have to fight worthy opponents, because he is the king, Since 688 BC when the Greeks established some kind of boxing as we see today, he is the only one claiming that he doesn't need to fight anybody that could potentially whoop his A$$, what kind of BS is this? Do you know that in 67 fights he has fought 2 good fighters in their prime, and two good to elite in their prime, the rest are old, undersized and not even good? Please, drop it. You have no logical reply, and the proof is out there. By the way, if Canelo vacates the belts, nobody would be waiting around for him. He reminds me of a girl at a party waiting for the perfect man to invite her to dance, while fooling around with other not-so-perfect men.
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              #56
              Originally posted by garfios

              Again, that is not a straight answer, beside, you make your bones in order to fight for the belts, not the other way around, once you make it to champion you don't hide behind them, you're "obligated " (canel is doing whatever the fvk he wants)by rules, regulations and honor(legacy), to defend it against the most qualified opponents, the ones that are making the bones. Your logic is BS and you know it. You don't have a straight answer because you whole beliefs in Canelo will be crashing down, that's why you're coming with all this nonsense, that he made his bones and he can do whatever he wants, do you know that canelo is the only champion to claim he doesn't have to fight worthy opponents, because he is the king, Since 688 BC when the Greeks established some kind of boxing as we see today, he is the only one claiming that he doesn't need to fight anybody that could potentially whoop his A$$, what kind of BS is this? Do you know that in 67 fights he has fought 2 good fighters in their prime, and two good to elite in their prime, the rest are old, undersized and not even good? Please, drop it. You have no logical reply, and the proof is out there. By the way, if Canelo vacates the belts, nobody would be waiting around for him. He reminds me of a girl at a party waiting for the perfect man to invite her to dance, while fooling around with other not-so-perfect men.
              If Canelo vacates the belts then all these guys would go after separate belts and never fight each other.

              That’s why I want them to fight each other now and not wait around for Canelo to grant them a lottery ticket. Yet you seem perfectly fine with them not testing themselves against each other.
              Last edited by ShoulderRoll; Today, 07:31 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                If Canelo vacates the belts then all these guys would go after separate belts and never fight each other.

                That’s why I want them to fight each other now and not wait around for Canelo to grant them a lottery ticket. Yet you seem perfectly fine with them not tearing themselves against each other.
                It is not their fault the division is stagnant, they will fight each other for sure, they will want to unify the division, each and every belt holder would have to fight a good opponent or they would not make any money. But again, you have no answer for the simplest question I asked. And for the last time, they're not waiting for the king to grant them a lottery ticket, they're waiting for canelo to vacate or start fighting his mandatories, like the rules stated, they feel they made their bones already and want to get in the mix, it is that so hard to understand? Please, answer the question, is canelo holding the division hostage? Yes or No. If he had fought Morrell jr, Benavidez, or Mbilli instead of ryder, munguia or Berlanga, would have been better for the division and boxing in general, including his legacy? Yes or No.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by garfios
                  It is not their fault the division is stagnant, they will fight each other for sure, they will want to unify the division, each and every belt holder would have to fight a good opponent or they would not make any money. But again, you have no answer for the simplest question I asked. And for the last time, they're not waiting for the king to grant them a lottery ticket, they're waiting for canelo to vacate or start fighting his mandatories, like the rules stated, they feel they made their bones already and want to get in the mix, it is that so hard to understand? Please, answer the question, is canelo holding the division hostage? Yes or No. If he had fought Morrell jr, Benavidez, or Mbilli instead of ryder, munguia or Berlanga, would have been better for the division and boxing in general, including his legacy? Yes or No.
                  Morrell Jr and Benavidez yes.

                  Mbilli wasn’t anybody at the time and not on the same level as them.

                  Now you answer the question: do you think it’s better for the 168 lb division if the top contenders fight each other or if they just wait around for Canelo?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                    Morrell Jr and Benavidez yes.

                    Mbilli wasn’t anybody at the time and not on the same level as them.

                    Now you answer the question: do you think it’s better for the 168 lb division if the top contenders fight each other or if they just wait around for Canelo?
                    I would have said a couple of years ago, yes, and even now the FIB has force #1 and #2 to fight, that's why we had Shiskin vs Scull, and then Iglesias vs Shiskin, Mbilli was the #1 for the WBA interim belt where Morrell jr was the holder, not only he never tried to fight Morrell jr but refuse him to fight him twice, that's why he went up chasing Benavidez. It takes two to tango, and in return, Canelo should have fought Morrell jr because he was not waiting for him, he tried to make all the good fights available to him, and he still is, but canelo wasn't interested, now his #1 mandatory for the FIB is Iglesias, what do you think he will do, fight him or not? Of course, he has to beat Crawford, which, for me, is just a formality, not because he is better than him, pound for pound Crawford is twice the better all-around fighter, but there are divisions for a reason. So yes, it is always better when contenders are cleaning up the division, but this is canelo's fault for holding the belts for far too long fighting boxers with no merit. Who is number one for the WBA? Morrell jr, fight him, beat him and fight Munguia, ryder or Berlanga. Actually, by doing that, he has looked worse than doing the right thing; all three of those boxers have got ktfo after their fights with canelo, something he couldn't do himself.

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