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  • Smash
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    #61
    ward v beterbiev

    ward retired in 2017, beter won his first world title in 2017

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    • SouthpawRight
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      #62
      Originally posted by Bennyleonard99
      Margarito would have slaughtered Floyd in 2006.
      Williams would have slaughtered Floyd in 2006.
      Pacquiao would have SLAWTERED Floyd in 2010.
      Golovkin would have murdered Floyd at 154.
      Vivian Harris would have beaten up Floyd.
      Sergio Martinez would have slaughtered Floyd.
      Miguel Cotto would have slaughtered Floyd in 2008.
      Tszyu would have slaughtered Floyd.

      Whyte would have slaughtered Wilder.
      AJ would have slaughtered Wilder.

      Lewis vs Ike.
      Hagler vs Monzon.
      Quartey vs Tito.



      AND STILL the highest ranking recent great for a fighter who'd get beat in so many fantasy h2h matches of yours

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      • SouthpawRight
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        #63
        Originally posted by Smash
        ward v beterbiev

        ward retired in 2017, beter won his first world title in 2017
        ggg vs Ward at 168

        ggg vs Erislandy at 154

        ggg vs Floyd at 154

        ggg was the most risk averse hall of famer in recent times

        this guy stayed in his comfort zone the entire time happy to reign over a lacking middleweight division

        back in the days middleweights would go all the way up to heavyweight for better opportunities

        golovkin refused to do one weight class change

        and gets a geddoe pass anyways

        so much bullsht is forgiven when you're a ko artist

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        • daggum
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          #64
          Originally posted by SouthpawRight
          ggg vs Ward at 168

          ggg vs Erislandy at 154

          ggg vs Floyd at 154


          ggg was the most risk averse hall of famer in recent times

          this guy stayed in his comfort zone the entire time happy to reign over a lacking middleweight division

          back in the days middleweights would go all the way up to heavyweight for better opportunities

          golovkin refused to do one weight class change

          and gets a geddoe pass anyways

          so much bullsht is forgiven when you're a ko artist
          ward literally turned that fight down but ok. it came out in court records that ward didnt want to fight anyone good. his own promoter said that ward avoided everyone on hbo's list of opponents including ggg so yeah just making things up. unless you are talking about wards fake offer years and years later which was "lets fight in a year, make sure to postpone the canelo fight you are next in line for" without that stipulation maybe it would have happened but ward knew that would kill the fight which of course it did but to cement that he was bluffing ward said "we thought ggg was available, we ddint know he had a fight scheduled" problem is you didnt want to fight him next, you wanted to fight him in a year? if you wanted to fight him next you would have sent him an offer to fight next which he did not do. also ward hadnt fought at 168 in years and wasnt coming back. it was just public relations spin for ward.

          ggg wasnt going to 154 for lara so putting that fight on its pretty silly. lara said he wanted more money to fight ggg then he got for canelo so yeah obviously lara had no interest in ggg. once again just public relations spin.

          ggg would have come down to 154 for floyd but floyd wouldnt do that yet blaming ggg for that?

          why not talk about realistic fights that could have happened? like ggg vs martinez which martinez didnt want. if you wanted him to move up and fight degale or something ok thats fine but thats not really an amazing fight now is it? ggg vs badou jack? after ward ducked ggg there really wasnt any super fight above him. kind of just mad at ward arent you? or at least should be. floyd vs ggg? is that the kind of fight floyd takes?

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          • SouthpawRight
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            #65
            Originally posted by daggum

            ward literally turned that fight down but ok. it came out in court records that ward didnt want to fight anyone good. his own promoter said that ward avoided everyone on hbo's list of opponents including ggg so yeah just making things up. unless you are talking about wards fake offer years and years later which was "lets fight in a year, make sure to postpone the canelo fight you are next in line for" without that stipulation maybe it would have happened but ward knew that would kill the fight which of course it did but to cement that he was bluffing ward said "we thought ggg was available, we ddint know he had a fight scheduled" problem is you didnt want to fight him next, you wanted to fight him in a year? if you wanted to fight him next you would have sent him an offer to fight next which he did not do. also ward hadnt fought at 168 in years and wasnt coming back. it was just public relations spin for ward.

            ggg wasnt going to 154 for lara so putting that fight on its pretty silly. lara said he wanted more money to fight ggg then he got for canelo so yeah obviously lara had no interest in ggg. once again just public relations spin.

            ggg would have come down to 154 for floyd but floyd wouldnt do that yet blaming ggg for that?

            why not talk about realistic fights that could have happened? like ggg vs martinez which martinez didnt want. if you wanted him to move up and fight degale or something ok thats fine but thats not really an amazing fight now is it? ggg vs badou jack? after ward ducked ggg there really wasnt any super fight above him. kind of just mad at ward arent you? or at least should be. floyd vs ggg? is that the kind of fight floyd takes?


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            • daggum
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              #66
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight

              what about your thoughts on ward vs bute? the fight ward really wanted...not. do you see a pattern emerging? wards the guy who didnt want the tough fights especially during that period so why blame ggg when it was ward? hbo realized he wasnt going to fight anyone legit and cut him lose. his own promoter confirms this. the only time he fought anyone legit was later when hbo forced him to fight kovalev as part of the deal. ward wasnt forced to fight ggg, bute, or anyone else and literally took it to court to try and get the easy fights approved. court sided with hbo and his promoter saying hbo had final approval. ward lost. his promoter won. his promoter said i did have fights for ward. ward did not want them! court said yep this checks out ward you lose.
              Last edited by daggum; 09-02-2025, 01:53 PM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by daggum

                what about your thoughts on ward vs bute? the fight ward really wanted...not. do you see a pattern emerging? wards the guy who didnt want the tough fights especially during that period so why blame ggg when it was ward? hbo realized he wasnt going to fight anyone legit and cut him lose. his own promoter confirms this. the only time he fought anyone legit was later when hbo forced him to fight kovalev as part of the deal. ward wasnt forced to fight ggg, bute, or anyone else and literally took it to court to try and get the easy fights approved. court sided with hbo and his promoter saying hbo had final approval. ward lost. his promoter won. his promoter said i did have fights for ward. ward did not want them! court said yep this checks out ward you lose.
                too limited a euroid-canadian

                he has his big southpaw left hook to the liver

                bringing him to close quarters where Andre thrives

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                • daggum
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                  too limited a euroid-canadian

                  he has his big southpaw left hook to the liver

                  bringing him to close quarters where Andre thrives
                  you mean into wards wrestling zone? ok that could be true but ward still avoided the fight when bute was the clear #1 guy. credit is only given when credit is due. ward didnt want to fight him. saying ward beats everyone doesnt factor in wards lack of confidence in himself to get the job done.

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                  • SouthpawRight
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by daggum

                    you mean into wards wrestling zone? ok that could be true but ward still avoided the fight when bute was the clear #1 guy. credit is only given when credit is due. ward didnt want to fight him. saying ward beats everyone doesnt factor in wards lack of confidence in himself to get the job done.






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                    • Bennyleonard99
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by SouthpawRight


                      AND STILL the highest ranking recent great for a fighter who'd get beat in so many fantasy h2h matches of yours
                      Floyd ducked a WBA title shot vs Vivian Harris to fight nobody Henry Bruseles. That's a duck. Floyd feared Harris.

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