Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk's dancing video prompts WBO to order updated medical exam

[Willow The Wisp]

Doesn't matter, turkey doesn't need to pay it, WBO need to order it to be done in 90 days or Usyk is stripped then send it to a purse bid.

If the winning purse bid is 500k then Usyk fights for 500k or gets stripped

It's not complex at all.

I believe that Usyk had let a belt drop out of his possession before, and all that happened was that a beaten-before contender was elivated to a competing "title claimant" and his title shot was billed as a "unification" fight. The silly errand of "Title belt unification" served only to put more money into everyone's pocket; which is precisely the idea!

Usyk, therefore, won't mind a bit if every contender getting a shot at him going forward is being billed as a "champion" of one kind or another.
Any "Undisputed" champion will face the unlikely prospect of retaining an "undisputed" status; which is a condition that typically lasts only a few short months, due to the undisciplined structure of the sport and the purpose of sanctioning bodies as belt sellers, whose value is limited to illegitimately punching up the meaning of fights with bogus "titles" being put on the line.

At Heavyweight, these phony titles carry no real meaning.
Only the Sullivan to Usyk linial title decides.


In 2026, possibly into 2027, Usyk will find that Kabayel, Parker and Itauma will provide more difficult tasks than past prime Fury, past prime Joshua, and hot & cold Chisora and Dubois did.


Let's see if he's up to taking that kind of risk.


Several past heavyweight champions who retired as sitting world champion didn't leave until the work was done.

Usyk may live up to that standard, or he may cut and run.

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In 2026, possibly into 2027, Usyk will find that Kabayel, Parker and Itauma will provide more difficult tasks than past prime Fury, past prime Joshua, and hot & cold Chisora and Dubois did.

eh fury would have beaten all 3 of those guys most likely, u forget that fury was actually pretty good

as for AJ he was in good nick in the first usyk fight being the champion and prob would have dispatched all 3 of those guys as well, he already beat parker and the other 2 are just contenders as yet, unproven at the top level

[NihonJim]

eh fury would have beaten all 3 of those guys most likely, u forget that fury was actually pretty good

as for AJ he was in good nick in the first usyk fight being the champion and prob would have dispatched all 3 of those guys as well, he already beat parker and the other 2 are just contenders as yet, unproven at the top level

Was is the key word here, his legs went years ago

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Was is the key word here, his legs went years ago

fury KO'ed wilderx2, then stumble bum then chisora before he fought usyk he was on a great run u cant rewrite history, wilder fights may have taken something from him but he was still good enough to deal with the likes of these 3 'bogeymen' or uber contenders that are now here, new parker, german guy and 20 yr old lol & oh yeah by the way the 3 before that were zhang bakole and someone else, there is always new contenders, saying a 38 yrs old boxer who has cleaned out the division by beating the 3 top guys twice each has to go again is a bit mad, now im not saying another fight wouldnt be fine but to downplay the other top guys and elevate this new batch higher than they should be is madness

[NihonJim]

fury KO'ed wilderx2, then stumble bum then chisora before he fought usyk he was on a great run u cant rewrite history, wilder fights may have taken something from him but he was still good enough to deal with the likes of these 3 'bogeymen' or uber contenders that are now here, new parker, german guy and 20 yr old lol & oh yeah by the way the 3 before that were zhang bakole and someone else, there is always new contenders, saying a 38 yrs old boxer who has cleaned out the division by beating the 3 top guys twice each has to go again is a bit mad, now im not saying another fight wouldnt be fine but to downplay the other top guys and elevate this new batch higher than they should be is madness

He literally lost a boxing match to a UFC fighter the fight before Usyk.

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He literally lost a boxing match to a UFC fighter the fight before Usyk.

that was a show fight, fury didnt want to engage him at all so he just jabbed him, from his talk before the fight he bought into all this about ngannou being the hardest hitter on the planet so just jabbed him, AJ landed one shot on him but he saw how ngannou boxed from the fury fight and planned that from the start, different styles totally

[Willow The Wisp]

eh fury would have beaten all 3 of those guys most likely, u forget that fury was actually pretty good

as for AJ he was in good nick in the first usyk fight being the champion and prob would have dispatched all 3 of those guys as well, he already beat parker and the other 2 are just contenders as yet, unproven at the top level

Well, it's difficult to accurately GUESS who the end-career Tyson Fury might have beaten. I don't view Fury as having been quite the same fighter in 2018 and 2024. Wars where one suffers a draw and 4 hard knockdowns, balooning in weight between fights, alcohol over consumption and advancing age are all things that can cause slippage, which has been in steady evidence.

What we DO know with great certainty, is that all fighters have a beginning, a middle and an end; and that Oleksandr Usyk shone brightly while narrowly defeating both Fury and Joshua at their respective career END.
As it stands, there's just no telling what end-stage Fury, or Usyk.....might do against a fully matured Parker, an increasingly impressive Kabayel, or the seemingly limitless Itauma.


Another highly important point germane to Usyk's decision tree, is that James J. Jeffries, in 1905; Gene Tunney, in 1928, Joe Louis, in 1949; Rocky Marciano, in 1956; Muhammad Ali, in 1979, Lennox Lewis, in 2004, and Wladimir Klitschko, in 2016, had all retired as the champion; each with less serious contenders left in the division than Usyk would leave behind, if he retired right now.


That assertion would feature prominently in the crafting of his career legacy.
Critical fans might well claim that end-career Joshua, end-career Fury, and Daniel Dubois is all that Usyk can claim as his heavyweight accomplishments, which is more than respectable; but far short of what might have been. And they'll have a solid point. Seriously critical ones would call it running away when the going got tough.

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. Seriously critical ones would call it running away when the going got tough.

U cant call a 38 yr old boxer anything if he chooses to retire after cleaning out his division not once but twice

As for AJ he was NOT end stage career, he was 31 and unified champ when he hit usyk, usyk caused him to enter end stage and nothing else, fury had more miles on the clock but was still going well, actually AJ and fury the biggest problem they faced was they met someone who they both know they cannot beat no matter how or what they do, AJ could never beat usyk, the fury that fought Klit or maybe wilder at the start, might have a shot at usyk but i would still bet on usyk to win but we will never know

[Willow The Wisp]

U cant call a 38 yr old boxer anything if he chooses to retire after cleaning out his division not once but twice

As for AJ he was NOT end stage career, he was 31 and unified champ when he hit usyk, usyk caused him to enter end stage and nothing else, fury had more miles on the clock but was still going well, actually AJ and fury the biggest problem they faced was they met someone who they both know they cannot beat no matter how or what they do, AJ could never beat usyk, the fury that fought Klit or maybe wilder at the start, might have a shot at usyk but i would still bet on usyk to win but we will never know

It isn't hard to heap praise on Usyk in the euphoria of the moment. He is an amazing boxer and a genuine all-time great. However; keeping our feet on the ground about it; given the razor thin closeness of the two Usyk-Fury fights; and an honest acknowledgement of Fury's career arc; it is really quite easy to imagine the faster, fresher 2018 version of Fury keeping Usyk at the end of his jab and winning handily. Again, you're just never the same fellow at the conclusion of your career that you were in your prime. Nobody ever was.
Fury wasn't by half.

For Usyk; 38, his age; is not the instructive figure. Having had only a very modest 24 professional fights is.

I would never say that Usyk retired to avoid the infusion of better, younger, more in-prime top contenders than the three he built his reputation on; but without at least ONE win over the top three at this moment; the door will be left wide open for those opinions to flourish.

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For Usyk; 38, his age; is not the instructive figure. Having had only a very modest 24 professional fights is.

I would never say that Usyk retired to avoid the infusion of better, younger, more in-prime top contenders than the three he built his reputation on; but without at least ONE win over the top three at this moment; the door will be left wide open for those opinions to flourish.

14 of usyks fights have been championship level fights, he didnt take it easy for years like a lot of guys who start earlier in the pros do plus his amateur fights add up as well & 38 is 38 at the end of the day, no matter what its end stage of boxing career

u are over rated over hyping these 'new' guys and it ALWAYS happens, these guys if usyk fights them or not will be found out soon most likely & u will have egg on your face biggin them up so much and btw moses is NOWHERE near top 3 heavy now, he only beat the ghost of stumble bum lol, moses is barely cracking top 10 i would say, parker is not some super human version of himself now either like some make him out to be, that quite funny too and as for this german guy, well hes been hiding out for many many years and now hes on a bit of a run good for him but thats how boxing works, there will always be someone on the rise on a run