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    Comments Thread For: Crossroads: Japanese boxing is in danger of ?disappearing? following recent tragedies

    On August 2, Japanese boxers Shigetoshi Kotari and Hiromasa Urakawa, both 28, fought on the same card at Tokyo?s Korakuen Hall and hoped to secure victories to bolster their respective careers. Kotari, a junior lightweight, was having his first ever 12-rounder, while Urakawa, a lightweight, was looking to rebound from a close decision loss and get back to winning ways in a fight scheduled for eight rounds.
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    #2
    Establish what each fighter's healthy baseline is.

    If a fighter walks around at 145, then don't allow him to melt down to 118 to fight.

    A fighter should be somewhere close to his normal baseline at all times.

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    • Gaseous Clay
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      #3
      Jake Paul can save Japanese boxing.

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      • steeve steel
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        #4
        Japanese boxing is NOT going to die.

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        • famicommander
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          #5
          The response in real time to Anaguchi and Shigeoka (twice) rapidly declining after their respective fights was utterly appalling, especially when you consider how much time passed between each event.

          Slow recognition of how serious the situations were, slow response by the paramedics/doctors, trying to prop these guys up on their stools in the corners, trying to hand their limp bodies over the ropes to get them out of the ring, being slow to bring the stretcher, bringing an old style cloth board instead of a modern one you strap the fighters to, no oxygen masks on hand.

          I distinctly remember screaming at my television screen all three times. It was extremely obvious to me, a random guy on his couch, that those guys needed immediate and expert care. So why wasn't it obvious to the trained professionals? And why wasn't anything done to address the staggering failures after the Anaguchi incident?

          It was bad enough that it happened to Shigeoka once. But then, after he nearly died the first time, they somehow let him back into the ring to face the same opponent in the same weight class less than a year later. And, yet again, when his condition deteriorated rapidly after the fight they all had absolutely no idea what to do about it.

          It was sickening. I was beating the drum for the JBC to take drastic action for a long time.

          And all of that was BEFORE the two fighters died from fighting on the same card.

          Japan is a wealthy, advanced nation but their emergency response was disorganized and pathetic. I've seen troubled fighters get better, faster care in poor Central American and African nations. There's absolutely no excuse for any of this.

          The decision makers at the JBC need to be in jail over this. Hire some competent adults to fix their mess, don't give these clowns the chance to cost us anymore lives.

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          • davef
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            Originally posted by famicommander
            It was bad enough that it happened to Shigeoka once. But then, after he nearly died the first time, they somehow let him back into the ring to face the same opponent in the same weight class less than a year later.
            might be one of the most insane things i've heard...

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            • PlasterHands
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              Originally posted by famicommander
              The response in real time to Anaguchi and Shigeoka (twice) rapidly declining after their respective fights was utterly appalling, especially when you consider how much time passed between each event.

              Slow recognition of how serious the situations were, slow response by the paramedics/doctors, trying to prop these guys up on their stools in the corners, trying to hand their limp bodies over the ropes to get them out of the ring, being slow to bring the stretcher, bringing an old style cloth board instead of a modern one you strap the fighters to, no oxygen masks on hand.

              I distinctly remember screaming at my television screen all three times. It was extremely obvious to me, a random guy on his couch, that those guys needed immediate and expert care. So why wasn't it obvious to the trained professionals? And why wasn't anything done to address the staggering failures after the Anaguchi incident?

              It was bad enough that it happened to Shigeoka once. But then, after he nearly died the first time, they somehow let him back into the ring to face the same opponent in the same weight class less than a year later. And, yet again, when his condition deteriorated rapidly after the fight they all had absolutely no idea what to do about it.

              It was sickening. I was beating the drum for the JBC to take drastic action for a long time.

              And all of that was BEFORE the two fighters died from fighting on the same card.

              Japan is a wealthy, advanced nation but their emergency response was disorganized and pathetic. I've seen troubled fighters get better, faster care in poor Central American and African nations. There's absolutely no excuse for any of this.

              The decision makers at the JBC need to be in jail over this. Hire some competent adults to fix their mess, don't give these clowns the chance to cost us anymore lives.
              I didn't see these two fights, but if what you say about the medical response time is accurate, that is pretty sickening. When Kazuki Anaguchi lost to Seiya Tsutsumi on the undercard of Inoue-Tapales in 2023, I watched Anaguchi suffer visible and obvious signs of neurological distress with no help coming from ringside medical. His trainer even had to help him walk to the locker room because his legs were not working. He died a little more than a month later. If ever a call to action, that should have been it. Sad.

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              • JOITATS
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                #8
                Many of these Japanese trainers are from the "old school".
                They don't have as much understanding for health or science.


                Unfortunately, quitting is not a part of the "old school" mentality.


                IMO
                fighters need to go with trainers who have more knowledge of modern health and science.
                Because these "old school" trainers are never going to change.




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                • OffTheBack
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                  #9
                  Send All Japanese Boxers To Train 2-3 Years With Inoue And Forget.

                  Famous Words By Islam Makhachev.

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                  • 57Blues
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PlasterHands

                    I didn't see these two fights, but if what you say about the medical response time is accurate, that is pretty sickening. When Kazuki Anaguchi lost to Seiya Tsutsumi on the undercard of Inoue-Tapales in 2023, I watched Anaguchi suffer visible and obvious signs of neurological distress with no help coming from ringside medical. His trainer even had to help him walk to the locker room because his legs were not working. He died a little more than a month later. If ever a call to action, that should have been it. Sad.
                    i saw that fight and am no expert but the kid was being held up by trainers left in the ring while basically unconcouse was brutal the other fights i did not see but am sure there were some signs and actions that could have been taken.

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