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  • #11
    Maybe the odds are catching up with them. Too much pressure and slipshod enforcement. Tanaka needed a seeing eye dog. No disrespect.

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    • #12
      As I get older I have mostly lost interest in the sport.

      Two reasons: Corruption. And this. It is a brutal sport where people can die. The fighters obviously know the risks. The irony of boxing is that making the sport safer also makes it more boring. It really does say something about humans who enjoy bloodsports, myself included. No one wants to see defense first fighters, exciting fights are two guys hurting each other.

      I don't know. I am getting to the point where I could care less if the sport goes away.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart View Post
        I wonder how much dehydration can affect the environment of the brain ? Any ideas ?
        Alot,
        All fighters should have hydration measured at weigh in like they do or did in an mma company. Not sure which.
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        • #14
          Devastating,
          Condolences to the family's.

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          • #15
            Very sad. Love this sport and you just hate it when this happens. RIP and condolences

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            • #16
              Promoters need to be obligated to take insurance for cancelled fights/promotions. The financial loss from cancelled shows is why there's not much interest in pre fight brain scans or weigh-ins.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by Rumblerr View Post
                This is a perfect reason why fighters who choose to learn the art of boxing (hit and not get hit) should never be criticized by anyone. We as fans have forgotten that boxing is an extremely brutal sport, where the participants can get seriously hurt. We should learn to appreciate the art of boxing at its purest form, where great skills are displayed and only the very best are allowed to compete. It's easy for someone who's never felt a blow to the face or body to criticize fighters who choose to learn the true art of the "Sweet Science", and therefore, preserve their health and life. Boxing is meant to be a sport where skill is used to entertain those who understand its intricacies.

                Its easy for someone with pockets full of money to say that they don't want to see "Tom and Jerry" fights. What do we say to that when tragedies like this occur because of making fighters not want to be placed in such category? Boxing is called a sport for a reason. It is meant to be enjoyed as a skillful event, where the participants are displaying fenomenal skill through the true art of BOXING, not simply fighting for the sake of trying to kill one another. We appreciate skills in all other sports, but we criticize really skillful fighters when they display their skills in the ring. It seems as though fighters are being forced into trying to kill each other in order for us to be "truly" entertained. The real science of boxing is being frowned upon as something boring because someone is not ending up in the emergency room after every performance or event. As a fan of the great sport and sweet science of boxing, I am ashamed for those who choose this form of thinking.

                My deepest condolences to the families of the two warriors who lost their lives doing what they loved, while trying to entertain their sick and sadistic fans. May their souls rest in eternal peace among other great warriors and practitioners of the sweet science of boxing. One love.
                People mostly critique Boxing as a sport because of how ugly it is the way it is run, money first and last forget about the fan forget about how many bad ranking and poor match ups and the fact that Boxing as a whole never cares about the die hard fan. Everything is over hyped, you have to either pay and pay per view or miss or steal the fights anymore. That is what people critique the most. And sure it spills over to the fighters. People die all day long in the line of duty as Police, as construction workers in the health field. It is impossible and ****** to say people should not have a thought or an opinion on a fighter good or bad it is human nature. Get real
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                • #18
                  Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy View Post
                  Agree with all of the points above. Someone mentioned how this stoopid Turki dude is waving around money and shaming, buying and financially threatening fighters to beat the hell outta each other for 'entertainment' and the satisfaction of viewers. He's no good for the sport in those regards.

                  As far as the athletic commissions and their responses...all I remember is Maxim Dadashev limping, flailing and ultimately carried out on a stretcher after the Matias fight was stopped. Dude vomited everywhere and no one seemed to move fast enough to assist him. Yes, the commissions need to have a better plan in place, regardless of the State, Country or fighter involved.

                  What I've learned from boxing over the past 25 years of viewing is that fans are never satisfied. They beg for fights and won't pay. They'll get the big fights, complain and beg for the next fight before the post-fight press conference even takes place. Do what's best for the fighters first and be sure they're safe and ready to perform, screw the fans and what they say they want.
                  I also won't forget Dadashev. That one sticks with me because it was obvious for three rounds that, although he tried to fight, there was no power at all, he was completely overwhelmed, and it shouldve been stopped.

                  For all the early stoppages where we all just shake our heads and wonder why, I still see fights regularly where I wonder what the ref is waiting for, let alone the corner.

                  Edit: It sounded like I meant Dadashev had no power, but I worded that part wrong. I meant to say that, after a certain point, he had no power left in his shots. He started fine, but even though he kept fighting, it was clear that he was very damaged, and his shots were like a kid against a grown up. They shouldbve stopped it then.
                  Last edited by BustedKnuckles; Yesterday, 10:09 AM.
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                  • #19
                    I watched that shegioka fight. There was no oxygen ringside. The doctor only inspected the fighter after the referee alerted him a few minutes after the fight finished.

                    Extremely poor care. They should also try to reduce 12 round fights to 10 round fights if its not world title fight. Non-world title level fighters have worse defence-more likely to lack good head movement, foot movement, good guard. And might be working part-time so wont be have time to get better at these or get in peak shape or make weight safely.

                    japan fighting style is very athletic, high contact, powerful, tough, theyre all in shape. Lends for some brutal fights.

                    There should also be random ped testing
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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by BustedKnuckles View Post
                      , let alone the corner.
                      the corner should know immediately something not right the ref might be thinking is this the way he fights or something? the corner can ask the guy how u feeling as well

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