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  • #31
    Originally posted by The Slickster View Post
    He is...I weigh 208 pounds and my hands are like lightning compared to him.
    There is nothing special about King Arthur other than his toughness and his strength.
    He boxing skills are AVERAGE at best and thats being kind.
    Abraham has very fast hands are you crazy? He explodes every round or so with sick 6 punch combos.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
      Abraham is NOT slow as dirt.
      AA wait like a coiled snake he holds his guard high and his elbows were pointed straight down. he brings his arms down just enough to make you hit below them and get called for a low foul. he is a very intellegent fighter he sees what you are about figures out his plan of attack and then springs out at you with hard fast attacks. His punches may not be as straight or as quick as some but he is faster than alot of fogithers in his wieght class. He throws vicious punches and has extreme power in both hands his left hook put Edison Miranda out for the count and that right hand was devastating as we all saw Saturday night.

      JT has issues with his stamina looming largely in his mind. That coupled with the fact he had a tough as nails opponent in front of him and a hostel crowd of thousand routing against him. He got the low blow penalty and he did get caught with a nice shot and was able to hold on. To tell you the truth if he could have ended the fight on his feet it woul dhave been something to build off of. i still think it is because he was not gassed and he did okay all things considered. Going out on your shield is not hte worst thing a boxer can do. The worst thing a fighter can do is quit onhis stool. JT did not do that....Lefty

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      • #33
        Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ View Post
        AA wait like a coiled snake he holds his guard high and his elbows were pointed straight down. he brings his arms down just enough to make you hit below them and get called for a low foul. he is a very intellegent fighter he sees what you are about figures out his plan of attack and then springs out at you with hard fast attacks. His punches may not be as straight or as quick as some but he is faster than alot of fogithers in his wieght class. He throws vicious punches and has extreme power in both hands his left hook put Edison Miranda out for the count and that right hand was devastating as we all saw Saturday night.

        JT has issues with his stamina looming largely in his mind. That coupled with the fact he had a tough as nails opponent in front of him and a hostel crowd of thousand routing against him. He got the low blow penalty and he did get caught with a nice shot and was able to hold on. To tell you the truth if he could have ended the fight on his feet it woul dhave been something to build off of. i still think it is because he was not gassed and he did okay all things considered. Going out on your shield is not hte worst thing a boxer can do. The worst thing a fighter can do is quit onhis stool. JT did not do that....Lefty
        Abraham can be countered when he opens up, in a big way. He loves the looping left hook and is WIIIIIIIIDDDDEEE open when he throws it. I think Direll has a chance to stick something in there if he man's up on his next fight and stays in the pocket a little bit. If not, it's lights out cuz we know whats gonna happen if the king catches him outside with that left hook (like the one he did miranda with).

        nothing butrespect for Jermaine but he needs to get out of this tourney. He was the mistake from the beginning.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
          Abraham can be countered when he opens up, in a big way. He loves the looping left hook and is WIIIIIIIIDDDDEEE open when he throws it. I think Direll has a chance to stick something in there if he man's up on his next fight and stays in the pocket a little bit. If not, it's lights out cuz we know whats gonna happen if the king catches him outside with that left hook (like the one he did miranda with).

          nothing butrespect for Jermaine but he needs to get out of this tourney. He was the mistake from the beginning.
          Dirrell is too scared and he fights like it. he could have fought a little more and ran a little less and maybe got Froch out of there. I think AA put him to sleep....Lefty

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          • #35
            Jermain lacks confidence plus Ozell Nelson is not a capable trainer at this level IMO.....Dumb is being to harsh on JT.......he has his flaws but I wouldn't consider him a dumb fighter!!

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            • #36
              i agree with most of whats been said already

              i think Taylor definately has some confidence issues ever since he lost to Pavlik he seemed more confident in his fights with Winky and the 2nd Bernard fight but maybe thats due to Wright not being a big puncher and Hopkins being older.

              he seemed to be doing reasonably well for most of the fight the low blow call was a bad decision though and he got thrown off his game abit after that

              i agree with what Steve Bunce said at the end of the fight Abraham was making him work every second of the round staying on his toes while he just plooded forward and it started to mentally train Jermain more than anything else. Taylor looked extremely uncomfortable when Abraham landed anything even punches partially blocked as as someone else eluded to.

              he has now been knocked out so many times any confidence he did have is gone for good

              didn't Emmanuel Stewart leave because he was trying to teach Jermain things but he said he would always revert back to his bad habits and wouldn't listen

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Slickster View Post
                No he is not dumb.
                His strategy was ALL wrong.
                To beat Arthur Abraham you have to lure him out of that silly shell he stays in and get him to throw first.
                Also you cannot stand right in front of him like Taylor did and does to all of his opponents.
                Abraham is slow as dirt...the key to beating him is angles...and countering him once he throws.
                I honestly think Durrell can beat this guy because he has excellent lateral movement and countering skills.
                Abraham is nothing special except his strength which is ungodly.
                You have to lure him into throwing first...move laterally and counter the **** out of him...he is VERY hittable.
                As for Jermain he need to get rid of his old trainer and start over again.
                He is an athletic guy but for some reason just wants to stand in front of guys and trade all the time.
                He also needs to work on his defense more.....he really needs help in this area...he is NOT someone who should keep his hands that low.
                He also need to work on getting some inside game...all he does is hold when he gets in close....people can learn a LOT from Bernard Hopkins in this regard.

                Jermain has remained a stagnant fighter....thats why he is losing....
                good post, he wasted so many shots againsts abrahams guard....and in the 12th all he was doing was double triple jabs....he needs to vary up his jabs and get abraham to throw 1st....he shoulda went inside in the middle rounds...he looks way too tense in there....

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                • #38
                  taylor was not trying to win that fight by any means..he knew who he was in with in thsi tournament and was just trying to get a full 12 rounds in with a fighter of AAs caliber to get his confidence up a bit..because going into this tournament his confidence was zapped.. Now it may be completely gone

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                  • #39
                    taylor is a dumb boxer... he throws punches just to throw them... he doesn't know how to set anything up.

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                    • #40
                      I'll put it to you guys this way; Jermain Taylor has the IQ of a mule.

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