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  • #51
    Originally posted by Hustle View Post

    They fought 2 rounds and Zab won the first round and got clipped in round 2 with one punch. We didn't see who's better. Round 1 Zab damn near knocked tzsyu out. Round 2 tszyu ended it.

    How tf is that comparable to lacy vs Calzaghe or floyd vs Hatton or canelo vs bivol or Mosley vs floyd?


    you wanted mayweather vs pacquiao 2. the irony
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    A loss is a loss. All these excuses mean exactly what?
    All the examples I gave were in jest. Sarcasm. In case you missed it.

    Clearly you either didn’t get it. Why the hell would I want a May-PAC rematch? PAC got beat. Period.

    Just like Lacey got beat. Just like Spence got beat. Just like Canelo got beat by Bivol.

    All you’re doing is making excuses for Zab. He got beat. Period.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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      I gotta ask ….. did we need to see a Floyd-Hatton rematch? Or a Spence-Crawford rematch? Or a Canelo-Bivol rematch? Or a Calzaghe-Lacy rematch?

      Zab was destroyed by Tszyu. What exactly compels a rematch? Do you think we should have gotten a Khan-Zab rematch? Of Cotto-Zab rematch? Or or or even a Mosley-Floyd rematch? There were people calling for it because if the ONLY TWO punches Mosley landed.

      Perhaps even a Floyd-Zab rematch?

      There was never a need for a rematch.
      I must respectfully disagree. If you were to go back and watch the first round of their fight; Judah was dominating Tszyu.

      He was backing Tszyu up against the ropes and pounding him. Had he continued that trend. He was on the verge of stopping Tszyu with both his speed, power and athleticism.

      However, a weird thing happened in round two. Zab became so overconfident and complacent to the point of where he started to lose focus.

      He thought that he could just coast himself to victory against Kostya Tszyu which was a big mistake.
      He underestimated Tszyu.

      He took his foot off the accelerator and paid a very heavy and dear cost for doing so. Once that happened; Kostya timed him perfectly with a beautiful right hand.

      Which subsequently and sadly ended Zab Judah’s once promising career.



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      • #53
        Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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        A loss is a loss. All these excuses mean exactly what?
        All the examples I gave were in jest. Sarcasm. In case you missed it.

        Clearly you either didn’t get it. Why the hell would I want a May-PAC rematch? PAC got beat. Period.

        Just like Lacey got beat. Just like Spence got beat. Just like Canelo got beat by Bivol.

        All you’re doing is making excuses for Zab. He got beat. Period.
        He got beat. No denying that. So did every fighter that ever got a rematch. So that's irrelevant

        The point is how he loss. It was 1 punch. He was winning the fight up until the punch.

        You act like he was being beaten from the jump like Hatton vs pac.
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        • #54
          Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          I must respectfully disagree. If you were to go back and watch the first round of their fight; Judah was dominating Tszyu.

          He was backing Tszyu up against the ropes and pounding him. Had he continued that trend. He was on the verge of stopping Tszyu with both his speed, power and athleticism.

          However, a weird thing happened in round two. Zab became so overconfident and complacent to the point of where he started to lose focus.

          He thought that he could just coast himself to victory against Kostya Tszyu which was a big mistake.
          He underestimated Tszyu.

          He took his foot off the accelerator and paid a very heavy and dear cost for doing so. Once that happened; Kostya timed him perfectly with a beautiful right hand.

          Which subsequently and sadly ended Zab Judah’s once promising career.


          Exactly this
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          • #55
            Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
            I must respectfully disagree. If you were to go back and watch the first round of their fight; Judah was dominating Tszyu.

            He was backing Tszyu up against the ropes and pounding him. Had he continued that trend. He was on the verge of stopping Tszyu with both his speed, power and athleticism.

            However, a weird thing happened in round two. Zab became so overconfident and complacent to the point of where he started to lose focus.

            He thought that he could just coast himself to victory against Kostya Tszyu which was a big mistake.
            He underestimated Tszyu.

            He took his foot off the accelerator and paid a very heavy and dear cost for doing so. Once that happened; Kostya timed him perfectly with a beautiful right hand.

            Which subsequently and sadly ended Zab Judah’s once promising career.
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            The same argument can be said about Roy-Target 2. Roy was in control until Tarver timed him perfectly and KO’d him. Roy bc was never the same after that.
            Same with the last PAC-Marquez fight. Perfect punch KO’d PAC who was in the fight but got caught and that out an end to that rivalry.
            Same with PAC’s KO of Hatton. There was no need for a rematch.
            When Hatton got KO’d by Floyd, he clamored for a rematch and so did his fans. Was there a need for it? Nope.

            AJ got clipped by Dubois in a fairly contested fight. Was there a need for a rematch? Nope.

            So, if there was ever a rematch between Zab and Tszyu, it would have been just Tszyu being a gentleman about it and agreeing to it. Some guys are never the same after a KO. Zab was that guy.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Hustle View Post

              He got beat. No denying that. So did every fighter that ever got a rematch. So that's irrelevant

              The point is how he loss. It was 1 punch. He was winning the fight up until the punch.

              You act like he was being beaten from the jump like Hatton vs pac.
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              I’m not acting like anything. Some rematches I can understand. The Zab KO was so brutal he was never going to be the same after that. And with hindsight, we know it would have ended the same way.

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