Comments Thread For: Zab ?Super? Judah: Once overhyped, now underappreciated?

[The D3vil]

Is that your wife?

I wish

[Rockybigblower]

I wish

Who is she?

[archiemoore1]

Kostya Tszyu did what he did, but in Zab's prime, he was nothing to play with. The reason why Zab was able to get hurt sometimes is because he was coming to get you, he wanted to hurt you. He was willing to take risks that he never had to take. Zab had the ability to out box just about anyone. He was fast and elusive highly skilled. If he was always defensive minded he would have been just about untouchable, but he was highly offensive as well. He was very proud and would never want to be in a lackluster fight. He came.to win but also to get the knockout. He showed his boxing ability against Mickey Ward, and yes he knocked Floyd down, not on his ass but yes his glove touched the canvas and it was a legitimate knockdown but it wasn't.called and that's a shame

[Oregonian]

Kostya Tszyu did what he did, but in Zab's prime, he was nothing to play with. The reason why Zab was able to get hurt sometimes is because he was coming to get you, he wanted to hurt you. He was willing to take risks that he never had to take. Zab had the ability to out box just about anyone. He was fast and elusive highly skilled. If he was always defensive minded he would have been just about untouchable, but he was highly offensive as well. He was very proud and would never want to be in a lackluster fight. He came.to win but also to get the knockout. He showed his boxing ability against Mickey Ward, and yes he knocked Floyd down, not on his ass but yes his glove touched the canvas and it was a legitimate knockdown but it wasn't.called and that's a shame

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So are you saying Zab was past his prime when he fought Tszyu?
In a lot of his fights, Zak’s dad used to admonish him by begging him to “let your hands go”. In every loss you’d hear his dad beg him to do just that. Zab never did. Once he was gone mentally, Zab was done. That is not a trait of a proud guy that never wanted to be in a lackluster fight.
I bet money on Zab beating Cotto. In fact I thought he would win by KO. Speed and power. But Zab literally quit.

As for Floyd, it’s the same rhetoric we hear, either Zab scored a knockdown or Shane would have KO’d him with endless IF scenarios.

None of that happened. Floyd adjusts and takes over the fights. How is it that in 50 pro fights, the Zab knockdown and Mosley’s TWO punches is what people get fixated on?

[champion4ever]

Where did it all go wrong with Zab Judah? He was one of the best young prospects out of the class from 1996 with Floyd Mayweather and Fernando Vargas.

Sure he was a two time divisional titleholder and a one time welterweight champion. However, he was never the same fighter since that Kostya Tszyu fight.

That fight more than any other had mentally broken and ruined him. He lost his passion for the sport after that loss.

Sadly, he never had a prime. It was all down hill since that fight for him.

[Gary Coleman]

Shawn Porter doesn't have the embarrassing losses that Zab has

Shawn Porter is a few rounds being rewarded in his way from beating prime Keith Thurman, Kell Brook, & Errol Spence.

Only Crawford really gave Porter a definitive loss.

That Kell Brook fight was not close. Shawn was clearly outboxed.

[fistandfury]

I do think he was under appreciated, he was the undisputed welterweight champion, he was the man at 140 before that, I think that his loss to KT crushed his career, especially his reaction afterwards, he was too defensively flawed to truly become an all time great, but you could make the argument that he is a HOFER, the argument can be made, it would be a shoo in if he doesn't attack that referee, or intentionally foul Mayweather resulting in a crowd clearing brawl

[champion4ever]

I do think he was under appreciated, he was the undisputed welterweight champion, he was the man at 140 before that, I think that his loss to KT crushed his career, especially his reaction afterwards, he was too defensively flawed to truly become an all time great, but you could make the argument that he is a HOFER, the argument can be made, it would be a shoo in if he doesn't attack that referee, or intentionally foul Mayweather resulting in a crowd clearing brawl

You are absolutely right. That Kostya Tszyu fight totally destroyed and broken him spiritually.

It was very similar to what Ryan Garcia’s fight with Gervonta Davis did to him. It cost him both his self-confidence, focus, discipline, commitment and dedication for the game.

Zab was just showing up to fights just to collect paydays it seemed. His heart was no longer in the sport. As evidenced by his lack of preparation in training.

However, I still do believe that he should be in the Hall of Fame though.

[QballLobo]

He was giving Mayweather a hell of a fight before he got frustrated and got on some bs.

[daggum]

He was giving Mayweather a hell of a fight before he got frustrated and got on some bs.

floyd adjusted. im sure floyd thought it would be easy, i mean judah just lost to bum baldomir but it wasnt so easy when floyd actually got in the ring. he tried the shoulder roll but floyd was used to fighting slow orthodox fighters, not fast southpaws so judah was getting through. floyd switched to a high guard and judah didnt know what to do against pressure since his defensive fundamentals arent very good. floyd basically became the baldomir in that fight since he couldnt outbox and counter judah. hilarious