Usyk vs Crawford P4P

[Jacobson]

Usyk keeps saying Crawford is P4P #1 and not himself, personally I had Crawford #1 after he demolished Spence.

But after seeing Usyk thoroughly defeat Tyson Fury not once but twice, I believe he may have snatched the top spot.

I think if Crawford pulls off the massive weight jump and actually beats Canelo, he is clearly the greatest of this era. But if he loses, then it’s Usyk.

What do you guys think? We are lucky to be in the same era as these 2 great champions.

[Da Pimper]

If Crawford stops Canelo like some people are saying he could be the GOAT.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I think Crawford is the most skilled fighter in boxing which is what Usyk is likely referencing. In terms of resume and accomplishments though, I think Usyk is the clear #1 at the moment.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Crawford us highly overrated. His best win is shot Spence.

[El_Mero]

Usyk isn't about praising himself. Only suckas do that

[famicommander]

Both guys (as well as Naoya Inoue) have a credible case for P4P #1.

I currently have Inoue #1, but I wouldn't disagree with anyone who says Crawford or Usyk deserve it. I especially wouldn't argue with Usyk himself.

Here are their resumes (TBRB rankings used, secondary and interim belts ignored entirely)

Terence Crawford:
W vs #3 Ricky Burns UD 12 (fmr. WBO 130; reigning WBO 135; future WBA 140)
W vs #7 Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO 9 (fmr. WBA/IBF 126)
W vs #2 Raymundo Beltran UD 12 (future WBO 135)
W vs #9 Thomas Dulorme TKO 6
W vs #1 Viktor Postol UD 12 (reigning WBC 140)
W vs #3 John Molina TKO 8
W vs #9 Felix Diaz RTD 10 (Diaz ranked at 147, fight at 140)
W vs #1 Julius Indongo KO 3 (reigning WBA/IBF 140)
W vs #4 Jeff Horn TKO 9 (reigning WBO 147)
W vs Amir Khan TKO 6 (fmr. WBA/IBF 140)
W vs #10 Egidijus Kavaliauskas TKO 9
W vs Kell Brook TKO 4 (fmr. IBF 147)
W vs #4 Shawn Porter TKO 10 (fmr. IBF 147; WBC 147)
W vs #9 David Avanesyan KO 6
W vs #1 Errol Spence Jr. TKO 9 (reigning WBA/WBC/IBF 147)
W vs #3 Israil Madrimov UD 12 (reigning WBA 154)

Other notable victories: Breidis Prescott, Andrey Klimov, Dierry Jean, Hank Lundy, Jose Benavidez Jr

14-0 vs top 10
9-0 vs top 5
4-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Crawford was #1)
11-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
6-0 vs reigning world titlists
3-0 in unification fights
19-0 in world title fights
6-0 in lineal world championship fights
41-0-0-0 overall record, 31 KOs

135: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBO
140: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
147: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
154: WBA

3 division lineal world champion
2 division undisputed world champion
4 division world titlist

Notable achievements:
-One of only nine men to be lineal champion in three weight classes (Fitzsimmons, Ross, Armstrong, Canzoneri, Leonard, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)
-One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Inoue, Usyk)

Oleksandr Usyk
W vs #2 Krzysztof Glowacki UD 12 (reigning and future WBO cruiserweight)
W vs #10 Marco Huck TKO 10 (fmr. WBO crusierweight)
W vs #6 Mairis Briedis MD 12 (reigning WBC cruiserweight; future WBO cruiserweight; IBF/Ring/TBRB/lineal cruiserweight)
W vs #2 Murat Gassiev UD 12 (reigning WBA/IBF cruiserweight)
W vs Tony Bellew KO 8 (fmr. WBC cruiserweight)
W vs #1 Anthony Joshua UD 12 (fmr. and reigning WBA/IBF/WBO heavyweight)
W vs #2 Anthony Joshua SD 12 (fmr. 2X WBA/IBF/WBO heavyweight)
W vs Daniel Dubois KO 9 (ftr. IBF heavyweight)
W vs #1 Tyson Fury SD 12 (fmr. WBA/IBF/WBO/2X Ring/2X TBRB, reigning WBC/lineal heavyweight)
W vs #1 Tyson Fury UD 12 (fmr 2X lineal/TBRB/Ring; WBC; WBO/WBA/IBF)
W vs #1 Daniel Dubois KO 5 (reigning IBF heavyweight)


Other notable victories: Thabiso Mchunu, Michael Hunter, Derek Chisora

9-0 vs top 10
7-0 vs top 5
6-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Usyk was #1)
11-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
6-0 vs reigning world titlists
4-0 in unification fights
13-0 in world title fights
5-0 in lineal world championship fights
24-0-0-0 overall record, 15 KOs

Cruiserweight: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
Heavyweight: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF X2, WBO undisputed (plus IBO) [stripped of IBF belt and then won it back during undisputed reign]

2 division lineal world champion
2 division undisputed world champion
2 division world titlist

Notable achievement:
-Usyk is 11-0 in his opponents' home countries and 5-0 on neutral ground, including 3-0 vs the A-side fighter in Saudi Arabia
-One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Crawford, Inoue)

[famicommander]

Crawford us highly overrated. His best win is shot Spence.

Spence didn't look very shot against Yordenis Ugas or Danny Garcia.

[famicommander]

Right now I have:

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Crawford
4. Bivol
5. Bieterbiev
6. Bam Rodriguez
7. Canelo

Depending on IF & HOW Crawford wins, will determine for me if he moves up to #1 or #2.

A dominating win over a top 7 p4p opponent that gives him a 4th unified undisputed title warrants a move to #1 imo.

If Crawford beats Canelo he's P4P #1 by a mile.

He'd be just the third 4 division lineal champion in the history of the sport after Floyd and Manny.
He'd be just the fifth 3 division undisputed champion after Fitzsimmons, Canzoneri, Armstrong, and Ross (all fought before the WBA/WBC split)
He'd be just the sixth 5 division world titlist in the history of the sport after Hearns, Leonard, De La Hoya, Floyd, and Manny

It's rather unlikely that Crawford beats Canelo, but there's absolutely zero argument against him if he pulls it off. I don't care if it's by split decision on a last second flash knockdown. Starting at 135 and becoming undisputed at 168 is absolutely absurd stuff.