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    Muhammad Ali vs Oleksandr Usyk: Can Usyk Surpass Ali’s Legacy?






    In the pantheon of heavyweight boxing, Muhammad Ali is often considered the eternal benchmark—the fighter against whom all others are measured. From his era-defining trilogy with Joe Frazier to his triumph over George Foreman in Zaire, Ali’s blend of showmanship, courage, and cultural impact transcended the ring. Fast forward to 2025, and Oleksandr Usyk, the cerebral Ukrainian southpaw, stands as the current undisputed heavyweight champion and one of the most technically gifted fighters of this generation. As his dominance continues, a provocative question has emerged: Can Usyk surpass Muhammad Ali’s legacy? The Case for Ali: Legacy Carved in Stone


    Muhammad Ali’s achievements are deeply woven into the fabric of boxing history:
    • Three-time lineal heavyweight champion
    • Wins over 7 Hall of Famers, including Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, and Archie Moore
    • Record of 56–5 with 37 KOs, spanning 21 years
    • 1974 “Rumble in the Jungle” and 1975 “Thrilla in Manila”—two of the most iconic fights ever
    • Unmatched cultural and political impact, notably his stance on the Vietnam War and civil rights
    • Ali wasn’t just a great boxer—he was a global symbol of resistance, charisma, and change. His legacy is not defined only by his belts but by the era he shaped.
    The Case for Usyk: Precision and Purity


    Oleksandr Usyk, in contrast, is a product of a different boxing era—one driven by elite skill sets, international competition, and multi-belt systems. His résumé is already remarkable:
    • Undisputed cruiserweight champion (first in the four-belt era)
    • Undisputed heavyweight champion as of 2024 after defeating Tyson Fury
    • Undefeated record (as of July 2025): 23–0, with victories over Anthony Joshua (twice), Tyson Fury, Daniel Dubois, and more
    • Olympic gold medalist (London 2012)
    • Known for his technical mastery, footwork, ring IQ, and adaptability

    Usyk’s achievements span two weight divisions, and his level of consistency and composure against larger heavyweights is nearly unmatched in modern boxing.

    Tale of the Tape: Muhammad Ali vs Oleksandr Usyk
    Height 6’3″ (191 cm) 6’3″ (191 cm)
    Reach 78″ (198 cm) 78″ (198 cm)
    Weight Class Heavyweight Cruiserweight / Heavyweight
    Stance Orthodox Southpaw
    Professional Record 56-5 (37 KOs) 22-0 (14 KOs)
    Styles and Eras: Apples to Oranges?
    Comparing Ali and Usyk requires a nuanced understanding of context:
    • Ali fought in an era with 15-round title fights, limited safety protocols, and fewer weight divisions.
    • Usyk operates in the modern era of multi-sanctioning bodies, sports science, and more structured competition.
    • Ali’s style—reflex-based, rhythm-driven, and psychological—relied on improvisation and bravado. Usyk’s game is built on fundamentals, control, and adaptability. While Ali danced, Usyk calculates. Both are difficult to hit. Both impose their will. But they do so in drastically different ways.
    Can Oleksandr Usyk Surpass Ali?


    In the ring, Usyk’s technical accomplishments may eventually rival or surpass Ali’s—particularly if he remains undefeated, dominates the heavyweight division for several more years, and retires without a loss. His ability to unify cruiserweight and heavyweight belts in the four-belt era is unprecedented.

    Outside the ring, however, surpassing Ali’s legacy is far less likely. Ali’s political and cultural influence—his boldness, activism, and generational symbolism—elevated him beyond sport. Usyk, while a proud representative of Ukraine and a voice during wartime, has not had the same global cultural footprint.

    Find out how Oleksandr Usyk compares to Muhammad Ali and if he can surpass his legacy

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    I bolded the last paragraph for those uneducated in the history of boxing or lack respect…even the UK knows what’s up!!!…

    Outside the ring, however, surpassing Ali’s legacy is far less likely. Ali’s political and cultural influence—his boldness, activism, and generational symbolism—elevated him beyond sport. Usyk, while a proud representative of Ukraine and a voice during wartime, has not had the same global cultural footprint.

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    • #3
      So in short…NO…Usyk will NEVER BE GREATER THAT MUHUMMAD ALI!!!…Even Usyk doesn’t think that!!!…Show some respect…your “colors” are showing!!!…How U Gon’ Do That???…

       

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      • #4
        Lot of similarities, same bday, same height, both even refused to fight for their country when they were at war, but Ali lost 3 years of his career for it whilst Usyk was given a pass with just a photoshoot for PR

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post
          Lot of similarities, same bday, same height, both even refused to fight for their country when they were at war, but Ali lost 3 years of his career for it whilst Usyk was given a pass with just a photoshoot for PR
          Can we be honest about why that was in regards to the bolded???…

          The similarities stop there because “Oleksandr Usyk has had eight professional heavyweight fights. This includes his recent win against Daniel Dubois on July 19th, 2025. He has also had fights against former champions and contenders like Anthony Joshua, Tyson Fury, and Dereck Chisora.”

          While on the other hand “Muhammad Ali had 61 professional heavyweight fights. He won 56 of them, with 37 wins by knockout (KO), and lost 5. He also won the Olympic gold medal in the light heavyweight division in Rome.​”

          There is absolutely no comparison in terms of greatness between the two!!!…Usyk couldn’t carry Ali’s jock strap!!!…
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          • #6
            If Ali can never be surpassed then no. Usyk cannot surpass Ali. But if it is possible to surpass Ali. Then usyk will do it oneday

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            • #7
              Outside the ring Usyk is a better role-model for boxing than the promiscuous, trash-talking Ali. Usyk would never call his brethren “gorilla” or “Uncle Tom”, or cheat on his wife with much younger girls.
              Last edited by Da Pimper; 07-24-2025, 07:25 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                If Ali can never be surpassed then no. Usyk cannot surpass Ali. But if it is possible to surpass Ali. Then usyk will do it oneday
                Usyk’s got 53 more fights at heavyweight and has to have the impact Ali had during his time and today’s time…Usyk is nowhere close to that and one day will never come…cheers…


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Da Pimper View Post
                  Outside the ring Usyk is a better role-model for boxing than the promiscuous, trash-talking Ali. Usyk would never call his brethren “gorilla” or “Uncle Tom”.
                  The great thing about real and genuine human beings is that they can show you all of their sides…the good…the bad and the ugly…and people forgive them because people appreciate real and genuine human beings with flaws and redemption because everyone knows they themselves aren’t perfect so they rather not look up to a fake role model who pretends to be perfect without flaws like Usyk…have a great one “bro” and cheers to you as welll…

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post
                    Lot of similarities, same bday, same height, both even refused to fight for their country when they were at war, but Ali lost 3 years of his career for it whilst Usyk was given a pass with just a photoshoot for PR
                    Usyk didn't refuse to fight for his country. He was in London when the Russians invaded Ukraine and he went back home immediately to enlist in the army. He was assigned to the defence of Kiev, which was under threat from the Russians at that time. He was then told that President Zelenski wanted him to resume his boxing career and fight for his country in the ring.

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