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  • #51
    Originally posted by Da Pimper View Post
    For years GGG was billed as this monster, but when Canelo stepped to him he showed he wasn’t as effective on the back foot.

    Is Usyk a more advanced fighter than GGG ever was?
    You left out Ginger was gifted a draw in their 1st fight and the 2nd fight, after Ginger pissed dirty af, AND was a 50/50 fight, while the 3rd was a wash cause ginger aged him out.

    I love your bs post cause its moronic af.

    But back to your question, Usyk is better than GGGRANDPA ever was, and definitely better than Ginger ever could be
    Last edited by El_Mero; 07-22-2025, 10:10 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post

      What do you mean they weren't the same fighters, the same fighters as what and when? AJ had all the belts minus the WBC, redeemed himself against Ruiz, and was coming off one of his most impressive looking victories in Pulev, he was also about 3 years younger than Usyk.

      Tyson Fury was undefeated, the lineal champion, was considered the best heavyweight in the world and was also 3 years younger than Usyk. To say he was washed is equivalent to saying that Evander Holyfield was washed after his win over Bert Cooper.


      At no point did Rosado and Kelly Brook come close to achieving what Fury and AJ have.

      We’re only talking heavyweight, but Usyk also defeated, Bellew, Briedis, Hunter, Gassiev etc… GGG resume is solid but subpar when compared to Usyk, even if you give him back to back wins against Canelo.
      Throw in undisputed at 2 weight classes, which Carnelo never attempted, and its a wrap

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      • #53
        Usyk is more skilled. GGG had heavier hands. head to head if they are the same size I would pick Usyk


        Their resumes are also not even close. GGG's best win is a guy moving up from the lower division. Usyk's best wins have 20-40 pounds on him
        Butt stuff Butt stuff likes this.

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        • #54
          GGG probably one of my favourite fighters ever. He has an iron mindset, unbreakable will and total dedication to his craft. But didn’t have as much adaptability that Usyk possesses. Usyk can adjust to compete with any style, whereas Golovkin struggled against other boxer punchers with very close fights. Not to mention Usyk went undisputed in two divisions (though it was much easier for Usyk to get the fights).

          To fall short in comparison to what I believe is an all time great in Usyk, is no shame at all. GGG would be around the top of the division at 160 in any era.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by elfag View Post
            Usyk is more skilled. GGG had heavier hands. head to head if they are the same size I would pick Usyk


            Their resumes are also not even close. GGG's best win is a guy moving up from the lower division. Usyk's best wins have 20-40 pounds on him
            I agree with the Alpha fäggot

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            • #56
              Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

              You left out Ginger was gifted a draw in their 1st fight and the 2nd fight, after Ginger pissed dirty af, AND was a 50/50 fight, while the 3rd was a wash cause ginger aged him out.

              I love your bs post cause its moronic af.

              But back to your question, Usyk is better than GGGRANDPA ever was, and definitely better than Ginger ever could be
              You were obviously breast-fed by your Dad to be this dumb. That wasn’t milk buddy.

              I didn’t say anything about who won their first fight. I just said golovkin isn’t as effective on the back foot. Use some reading comprehension.

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              • #57
                Ggg time has come and gone..GGG was the best in his division and in amongst the best in the world, if not actually being the best.But
                Usyk is better

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                • #58
                  Usyk is fortunate he hasn't had to deal with American boxing politics.

                  If Fury was American and Usyk vs Fury 1 was in the US, Usyk would have been robbed. Same for AJ 2 and possibly even AJ 1.

                  Usyk hasn't had to deal with all that like Lomachenko, GGG, Kovalev and many others have.

                  USA boxing would have stolen Usyks 0 and enough American fanboys would argue that "well it was close" that people would just accept that Usyk was a defeated boxer and it would heavily impact his historical standing just like happened to GGG, Loma, Kovalev and many more

                  This is the reason I hope Inoue isn't ****** enough to fight in America anymore more as well.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by NihonJim View Post
                    Usyk is fortunate he hasn't had to deal with American boxing politics.

                    If Fury was American and Usyk vs Fury 1 was in the US, Usyk would have been robbed. Same for AJ 2 and possibly even AJ 1.

                    Usyk hasn't had to deal with all that like Lomachenko, GGG, Kovalev and many others have.

                    USA boxing would have stolen Usyks 0 and enough American fanboys would argue that "well it was close" that people would just accept that Usyk was a defeated boxer and it would heavily impact his historical standing just like happened to GGG, Loma, Kovalev and many more

                    This is the reason I hope Inoue isn't ****** enough to fight in America anymore more as well.
                    u are prob right with this actually

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post

                      What do you mean they weren't the same fighters, the same fighters as what and when? AJ had all the belts minus the WBC, redeemed himself against Ruiz, and was coming off one of his most impressive looking victories in Pulev, he was also about 3 years younger than Usyk.

                      Tyson Fury was undefeated, the lineal champion, was considered the best heavyweight in the world and was also 3 years younger than Usyk. To say he was washed is equivalent to saying that Evander Holyfield was washed after his win over Bert Cooper.


                      At no point did Rosado and Kelly Brook come close to achieving what Fury and AJ have.

                      We’re only talking heavyweight, but Usyk also defeated, Bellew, Briedis, Hunter, Gassiev etc… GGG resume is solid but subpar when compared to Usyk, even if you give him back to back wins against Canelo.
                      Usyk fought fury in 2024!!! you telling me that's the same fury? fury fought wilder in 2020 and got dropped, etc... Usyk didnt fight fury until 4 years later. fighters supposed to stay the same??? fury couldnt even stop an MMA fighter!!! that's not the same fury anymore.

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