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Mayweather left too many questions.
Often only fought people when they were too old, avoided the likes of Margarito, pulled people out of their weight divisions.
Great fighter, but so many question marks.
Usyk goes to people's backyards, goes to their division, never ever had a question he's avoiding someone.
He's answered everything.Last edited by M312; Yesterday, 01:03 AM.Comment
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Who did Margarito ever beat worth mentioning ?Originally posted by M312 View Post
Look at their careers once May moved on from Arum
How many HOFers do you see this HW era producing. ?
No one wants to answer
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Re. Margarito - that's in hindsight.Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post
Who did Margarito ever beat worth mentioning ?
Look at their careers once May moved on from Arum
How many HOFers do you see this HW era producing. ?
No one wants to answer
At the time he was regarded as the biggest threat and Mayweather wanted nothing to do with him. Anything to avoid that fight. That's the truth unfortunately. Wish he'd have taken it, love watching boxers who take on all comers.
Usyk would've fought him without any questions.
Usyk beat Fury and AJ in their primes. They will both likely be HoF, like it or not. DDD still is young, who knows.
But its a loaded question isn't it? He's only been a heavy for a few years (and still became Undisputed twice, while beating at least two likely HoFs in their prime). Don't forget he was also Undisputed at Cruiser. I mean, seriously, the dude is special.
Mayweather really didn't beat anyone in their prime (inc. weight) post Arum did he? Cotto is probably the closest, but that was towards the end of his career and post some brutal losses. Hatton? At 147 though, so again takes away the shine slightly.
Remember, we're comparing ATGs here.
Its not personal.
Mayweather was amazing, his defensive skills can easily be argued to be among the greatest...But the truth is, Mayweather always slanted things in his favour, whether, age, weight etc. Almost every fight has question marks over them.
Usyk is the opposite. He beats everyone. And doesn't blink twice about it.Last edited by M312; Yesterday, 01:47 AM.Comment
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It's not hindsight that Margarito never amounted to ANYTHING except a weak boogeyman haters roll out in times of desperation.Originally posted by M312 View Post
They may not even sell him a ticket to visit the HOF.
Margarito is a nobody who doesn't have a decent W
Usyk is fortunate to have only fought the same 3 guys for the bulk of his HW career.
AJ Dubois and Fury
Not a Murderer's Row
Prime Fury...as if that's supposed to mean something
AJ is just a slightly better boxer than Wilder.
May's resume got more HOFers on it than Usyks ever will
Not sure why so called fight fans lose their minds in NSB after a fight !
How many HOFers will Usyk have on his resume, prime or otherwise......................................... .........................Comment
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Ah, you're emotionally attached to Mayweather, my bad, didn't realise you were one of those. You even want to avoid the word 'Prime' now to desperately try to progress your argument...Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post
It's not hindsight that Margarito never amounted to ANYTHING except a weak boogeyman haters roll out in times of desperation.
They may not even sell him a ticket to visit the HOF.
Margarito is a nobody who doesn't have a decent W
Usyk is fortunate to have only fought the same 3 guys for the bulk of his HW career.
AJ Dubois and Fury
Not a Murderer's Row
Prime Fury...as if that's supposed to mean something
AJ is just a slightly better boxer than Wilder.
May's resume got more HOFers on it than Usyks ever will
Not sure why so called fight fans lose their minds in NSB after a fight !
How many HOFers will Usyk have on his resume, prime or otherwise......................................... .........................
Sad dude, come on, he doesn't and will never care about you, it's just boxing.
Some simple bits:
- Floyd is a great. Don't get your panties in a twist. He's likely one of the top 3 defensive boxers of all time.
- But he did avoid Margarito, that's simply fact. Doesn't matter if Margo ended up a bum, Mayweather wanted nothing to do with him.
- Floyd didn't beat any HoF in their prime post Arum
- Floyd never fought away from home
- Usyk has become Undisputed 3 times
- Usyk has beaten two people (twice each) who were in their primes and likely will be HoF
- Usyk has never ducked anyone
- Usyk fight anyone, anywhere
Probably more stuff, but I'm bored, I'm not speaking to someone rational.
Floyd is amazing, we're just comparing with someone who has transcended him. Its OK, all records are eventually broken.
Chill dude.Last edited by M312; Yesterday, 02:23 AM.Comment
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Pac>usyk>floyd.
If you truly love boxing, you know Floyd's not in the equation.Last edited by hugh grant; Yesterday, 02:29 AM.Comment
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You interpret me telling the truth as being emotional....as if you had a choiceOriginally posted by M312 View Post
Fury might get in by default
AJ highly doubtful
Usyk might have 2 HOFers on his resume.
Hyper fans like you make being a fan of a fighter difficult.
Usyk is fighting in the lamest HW era the sport has ever seen.
By all rights, Usyk should be able to beat these asses until the ripe age of 87.
I'm the definition of chill.Comment
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As an unbiased observer i look at it like this. There could only be an argument if they fought in the same era. During Floyds era he was considered pound for pound #1 with only Manny as a rival for that position. Many people here argue that Crawford or Inoue could be ahead of Usyk as pound for pound #1 which essentially means Usyk might be considered by some not even the greatest of this era. Ultimately all we know is Usyk is doing incredibly amazing things in the ring. As for floyd...he changed the face of boxing....monetarily and socially. His ring prowess is sometimes overshadowed by the fact that his A side diva demands led boxing into the business era where promotion is often more important than skill and boxers...much like supermodels....wont get out of bed for less than a certain amount of money.
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