Fury is the only worthy opponent for Usyk

[M312]

Yes I'm saying he lost because he is more eroded.

Skill wise it was equal or even edge to fury in the first half of the fight, Usyk won because of his physical conditioning. Usyk is a consulate athlete, in shape year round, trains year round, rarely drinks.

Fury has spent 3 years as an obese drug addict and has 20lbs of loose skin around his waist that he should get surgery to remove. His legs are gone, his stamina is gone, his punch resistance is gone, still pushed Usyk to as close as 7-5

If Fury had lived the life, he would have beaten Usyk, he got damned close even though he's physically a wreck. but he didn't live the life and he paid for it when he needed that 10% extra stamina that wasn't there, that's his own fault, people won't like it, but it's not less true.

Fury can never beat Usyk now, you are right about that, as physically he's aging HORRIBLY, but he's still the only current fighter who can take rounds off Usyk imo, Kabayel possibly being the exception

Why is it that in this sport, grown men get so obsessed with other grown men?

Everything you wrote is just wishful thinking isn't it?
It's what you want to be true.
Even when your guy is beaten badly, you don't want to believe it's true.

Prior to the weight gain he was getting knocked down by Cunningham, Pajkic and beat up by John McDermott.

I don't want to rinse the guy, but simple fact is he got beat by the better boxer.

Everything you wrote is wishful thinking and shows more about your character than anything else.

He's not the boxer you want him to be.

[NihonJim]

Why is it that in this sport, grown men get so obsessed with other grown men?

Everything you wrote is just wishful thinking isn't it?
It's what you want to be true.
Even when your guy is beaten badly, you don't want to believe it's true.

Prior to the weight gain he was getting knocked down by Cunningham, Pajkic and beat up by John McDermott.

I don't want to rinse the guy, but simple fact is he got beat by the better boxer.

Everything you wrote is wishful thinking and shows more about your character than anything else.

He's not the boxer you want him to be.

You tell me, you are the one emotionally invested in making your point.

I don't really care one way or the other I just say it as I see it.

[M312]

You tell me, you are the one emotionally invested in making your point.

I don't really care one way or the other I just say it as I see it.

No, I'm talking facts.

Usyk beat Tyson twice, the second time easier.

By watching, I can see that he was mentally and physically beaten and it got easier each time.

If Tyson beat Usyk I would be saying something different - because that would be true... But he didn't.


You are making up some mythical Fury that would've beaten Usyk IF... IF... IF...

That's just your dreams and wishes.
Fact is... He lost... Twice... And the second time was pretty one sided.

There's no question marks here.

[NihonJim]

No, I'm talking facts.

Usyk beat Tyson twice, the second time easier.

By watching, I can see that he was mentally and physically beaten and it got easier each time.

If Tyson beat Usyk I would be saying something different - because that would be true... But he didn't.


You are making up some mythical Fury that would've beaten Usyk IF... IF... IF...

That's just your dreams and wishes.
Fact is... He lost... Twice... And the second time was pretty one sided.

There's no question marks here.

Still going are ya..

[daggum]

Fury from rounds 3-7 in the first fight 1 was otherworldly and made it looked easy. Fight 1 was close but i think fury lost the fight on the rounds that didn’t really matter.. rounds 1 and 2 when he played around..

if fury can get around 250lbs im all for a 3rd one…

He has no confidence on his chin anymore though hence the buffing for the 2nd fight hoping he’d walk usyk like a tank… but usyk just can’t be bullied and too difficult to catch if you’re slow.

Usyk won round 3 and busted fury up and won round 7. A lot of revisionist history going on here giving fury phantom credit for things.

Fury wasn't playing around in the first 2 rounds, he was being solidly outboxed and he was coping by clowning around. Its narcissistic cope. "I'm not really trying" "im letting him win" etc...of course its bollocks in a heavyweight world title fight to believe that.

In round 4 he upped his agression since he knew he dropped the first 3 rounds so he was forced to change tactics because of usyks success.

This gave fury brief success for 3 rounds but usyk stood right there with him and made him work hard to win the rounds, he didn't just give them to fury by backpeddling on the back foot allowing fury to conserve energy. It was either be picked apart for 12 or go for it in a short burst.

Usyk was ok dropping those middle rounds because he knew it would pay dividends down the stretch. Literally the same thing happened in the Joshua fights. When fury started to fade his form and technique started becoming ragged and thats when usyk started laying on the punishment in round 7.

Usyk took the last 6 vs a very drained fury and almost put him away. Thats why in fight 2 fury never went for it. He didnt want to put himself in that same position he was in the first fight where he had nothing left so usyk cruised to a pretty easy 9-3 win in the rematch.

Don't see how people are scoring it so favorably for fury. Almost all the clean work from usyk, punches with leverage, body weight behind them, on balance punches etc...fury with sloppy work when it did land which was less frequent.

[M312]

Still going are ya..

So is your imagination Jimmy lol
'If my love didn't put on weight 3 years prior then...' LOL

[IceTrayDaGang]

zhang bang